Dynamics - sled up a hill with several angles?

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The problem involves a boy dragging a sled up an 18-degree hill with a specified weight and pulling force. The objective is to determine the coefficient of kinetic friction between the sled and the snow while considering the forces acting on the sled.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to find the coefficient of kinetic friction by analyzing the forces acting on the sled, particularly questioning the relationship between the applied force and the kinetic friction. Some participants question the coordinate system being used and the meaning of terms like "x prime." Others clarify that the x-component of the pulling force does not equal the friction force due to the influence of gravity.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the coordinate system and the forces involved. There is a productive exchange of ideas regarding the interpretation of forces and net force concepts, but no consensus has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of force components on an incline and the implications of zero net force in the context of motion. The original poster expresses confusion about the relationship between kinetic friction and the forces at play.

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Homework Statement



A boy drags his sled of 90.0N at a constant speed up a 18 degree hill. He pulls with a 40.0N force on a rope which is 35 degrees above the horizontal.

a) What is coefficient of kinetic friction between the sled and the snow?

Homework Equations



Coefficieint = Force of Kinetic Friction / Normal Force

The Attempt at a Solution



I can find the normal force, no problem. It's just the kinetic friction I'm having trouble finding. I would think that the kinetic friction would be whatever the x component of the force applied is, since that is what is opposing the sled. However, if that was true, the Force net of the x prime would be 0. How would this be the kinetic friction then? Wouldn't it be for static since there is no movement?

I thought of doing this and checked yahoo answers, a response had a similar method. I just don't understand why to do this though.
 
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I'm not sure I understand. What is your coordinate system? Is the x-direction parallel to the slope, or parallel to the horizontal? What is x prime?
 
JaWiB said:
I'm not sure I understand. What is your coordinate system? Is the x-direction parallel to the slope, or parallel to the horizontal? What is x prime?
The x direction is parallel to the slope. X basically the x direction (the slope, back and forth). Don't know why I said prime now, lol.
 
Ok, well first of all the x-component of the pulling force isn't equal to the friction force because gravity also has a component in the x-direction. Second, zero net force means zero acceleration, not necessarily no movement.
 

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