Earth's diameter is smaller than previously thought

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The discussion revolves around the recent finding by researchers at the University of Bonn that Earth's diameter is five millimeters smaller than previously measured. The implications of this measurement for satellite positioning and climate change are explored, alongside the broader significance of small changes in scientific measurements.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express surprise at how a small difference in Earth's diameter could significantly impact satellite positioning and climate change measurements.
  • One participant references Chaos Theory and fractals, suggesting that tiny changes can lead to large effects in complex systems.
  • Another participant speculates on potential causes for the change in measurement, proposing that the cooling of the Earth's inner core and the dynamics of liquid iron could contribute to a reduction in size.
  • A participant with expertise in geology confirms that minor changes in input data can lead to drastically different outputs in scientific calculations.
  • Questions arise regarding the specifics of what is being measured and the significance of the 5mm difference in the context of various scientific variables.

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Participants generally agree on the significance of the measurement change and its implications, but there are multiple competing views regarding the causes and broader impacts of such a change. The discussion remains unresolved on these points.

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Limitations include a lack of clarity on the specific measurements being taken and the assumptions underlying the proposed causes for the change in Earth's diameter.

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I found this to be quite interesting.

BONN, Germany (AFP) - The world is smaller than first thought, German researchers at the University of Bonn said on Thursday.

They took part in an international project to measure the diameter of the world that showed it is five millimetres (0.2 inches) smaller than the last measurement made five years ago.

Dr Axel Nothnagel, who led the Bonn researchers, told AFP the difference was crucial in the study of climate change.

"It may seem a very small difference, but it is essential for the positioning of the satellites that can measure rises in sea level.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070705/sc_afp/germanyscience_070705151649
 
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it is essential for the positioning of the satellites that can measure rises in sea level.
Wow, that's awesome, I had never thought of it before.
 
I was really surprised at how such a tiny difference could skew information.
 
If i heard this about a year ago I would have been as well, but ever since I read about Chaos theory and Fractal's I'm quite scared about any changes at all! Fractal's are one example of where a tiny change effects the result greatly. Say f(a_n)= g(a_{n-1}) in other words, the function uses the previous value to generate the next, then as n approaches infinity, an initial small difference in a_n would be made very large, even though it was a tiny difference.

That's just fractal's, I read about a story concerned one of the discoverers of Chaos Theory. I can't remember the name but the guy was a meteorologist and printed some data, 10 decimals accuracy, that described a weather pattern. He wanted to re-create it later but didn't want his computer to take forever, so instead fed back in the data with 5 decimal places, thinking there would be little difference. To his shock it described a completely different system.
 
I wonder what the cause of the change could be... The article doesn't seem to say.
 
If the inner core is cooling slowly and condensing liquid iron from the outer core sinking to the inner core could slowly reduce the size of the Earth and increase the density of the core. As the nuclear energy from radioactive elements runs down the Earth should cool and decrease in size. Does this make sense?
 
Heh. Fractals in geology...My area of expertise ;)

I can definitely vouch for the fact that minute changes to the accuracy of some input numbers can drastically change outputs! Caused me endless pain trying to figure out why my results were completely obscure. All is well now thankfully :)
 
http://www.csr.utexas.edu/grace/publications/fact_sheet/3.html

A 5mm difference seems a massive achievement in measurement considering all the variables.
 

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