Easy convergent subsequence question.

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The discussion revolves around the sequence {x_k} = {(arctan(k^2+1), sin(k)} in R^2 and whether it contains a convergent subsequence. Participants are exploring the concept of boundedness in the context of sequences in R^2.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the definition of a bounded sequence in R^2, with some attempting to justify the boundedness of the sequence based on the ranges of its components. Others question the adequacy of the original poster's definition and suggest that a more precise understanding of boundedness is necessary.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's reasoning and exploring different definitions of boundedness. There is no explicit consensus yet, but the dialogue is focused on clarifying the concepts involved.

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Participants note the importance of the specific definition of boundedness in R^2 and the implications of different norms on the analysis of the sequence.

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Homework Statement


Consider the sequence {x_k} = {(arctan(k^2+1),sink)} in R^2. Is there a convergent
subsequence? Justify your answer.


Homework Equations



Every bounded sequence in R^n has a convergent subsequence.


The Attempt at a Solution


To show {x_k} is bounded: The range of arctan(k^2+1) is (-pi/2, pi/2) and the range of sin(k) is [-1,1].

A sequence is bded from above and below if there exist an M and an m both belong to R, such that a_k<=M and a_k>=m for all a_k in the sequence. Here, I want to state let M=1 and m=-1. because they are max and min y coordinate value for {x_k}, is this correct?
 
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No, it's not. But you're close. What you've stated is not the correct definition of a bounded sequence in R^2.
 
Actually, I think that depends on the precise definition of "bounded" in R2 in your text and, in turn, upon the norm used.


Morphism's point (I think) is that you have shown that the x and y of (x,y) are each bounded. For R2 you must show that |(x,y)|= [itex]\sqrt{x^2+ y^2}[/itex] has an upper bound. That, of course, is easy.

It is also possible to define |(x,y)| as max |x|,|y| as a norm on R2 in which case you are done! Of course, that is not the standard norm.
 
we just have 2 similar concepts on the text, one is

every bded sequence in R has a convergent subsequence

the second is what I stated before..

every bded sequence in R^n has a convergent subsequence

or should I use the definition of upper and lower bd?
 

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