Elastic collision and angle of deflection problem

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The discussion focuses on solving an elastic collision problem using conservation of momentum and kinetic energy equations. The participant expresses difficulty in algebraically manipulating the equations to find the angle of deflection. Key points include the importance of correctly applying signs in the equations, particularly in the vertical component, to ensure they sum to zero. Another contributor emphasizes the necessity of solving the problem independently for better understanding, while offering hints to guide the process. The overall consensus is that mastering the algebra is crucial for finding the solution.
Ahmed Farhan
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2. The equations are the equations of conservation of momentum:
m1v = m1v1cosθ1 + m2v2cosθ2
0 = m1v1sinθ1 + m2v2sinθ2

3. I tried to solve it using the above equations and also tried using kinetic energy conservation since it's an elastic collision. But I can't work out the algebra. Is there something wrong with the logic? I'm completely lost on this one. Someone please solve this for me.
 
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The relative sign in the "y" equation must be negative otherwise you cannot get the two to add to zero. The symbols v1 and v2 are speeds, therefore positive.
 
kuruman said:
The relative sign in the "y" equation must be negative otherwise you cannot get the two to add to zero. The symbols v1 and v2 are speeds, therefore positive.
Should it matter? The sign can be determined by the value of the angles.
 
Ahmed Farhan said:
I tried to solve it using the above equations and also tried using kinetic energy conservation since it's an elastic collision. But I can't work out the algebra. Is there something wrong with the logic? I'm completely lost on this one. Someone please solve this for me.
Hi Ahmed Farhan

It will be no good for you to get the solution by someone else. In order to learn Physics you have to solve it yourself. I'll give you some hints on this for (a):
take the conservation of momentum as you did and also the conservation of energy. Solve the system of these equations. Your aim is to get the ##cos\theta_{m}##. See how you can continue from there.
 
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