Elastic Collision of 89.5kg & 25.5kg Skaters - Kevin & Brother

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The discussion revolves around a physics homework problem involving an elastic collision between two skaters, Kevin and his younger brother. Kevin, weighing 89.5 kg, grabs his brother, who weighs 25.5 kg, and they roll off together at a speed of 2.13 m/s. The participant initially calculated Kevin's speed before the grab as 2.41 m/s but realized this was incorrect after reconsidering the conservation of momentum principle. The confusion stemmed from overcomplicating the problem, but the participant ultimately recognized the need to focus on momentum conservation. The problem was resolved with a clearer understanding of the concepts involved.
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Homework Statement

Kevin has a mass of 89.5 kg and is skating with in-line skates. He sees his 25.50 kg younger brother up ahead standing on the sidewalk, with his back turned. Coming up from behind, he grabs his brother and rolls off at a speed of 2.13 m/s. Ignoring friction, find Kevin's speed just before he grabbed his brother.

Homework Equations



1/2m1v012+1/2m2v022=1/2m1vf12+1/2m2vf22

The Attempt at a Solution



I have tried many ways of doing this problem, and I keep arriving at the same answer: 2.41 m/s which is incorrect. I then decided to pretend that the kid and his brother are one unit so i added their masses together multiplied times the 2.132 divided by 2 and set that equal to the left side of the above equation. However i again got 2.41. It seems that every way i try this problem i get 2.41

What am i doing wrong?
 
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spidey12 said:

Homework Statement

Kevin has a mass of 89.5 kg and is skating with in-line skates. He sees his 25.50 kg younger brother up ahead standing on the sidewalk, with his back turned. Coming up from behind, he grabs his brother and rolls off at a speed of 2.13 m/s. Ignoring friction, find Kevin's speed just before he grabbed his brother.

Homework Equations



1/2m1v012+1/2m2v022=1/2m1vf12+1/2m2vf22

The Attempt at a Solution



I have tried many ways of doing this problem, and I keep arriving at the same answer: 2.41 m/s which is incorrect. I then decided to pretend that the kid and his brother are one unit so i added their masses together multiplied times the 2.132 divided by 2 and set that equal to the left side of the above equation. However i again got 2.41. It seems that every way i try this problem i get 2.41

What am i doing wrong?

Aren't you supposed to be conserving momentum? Isn't that simply m x v ?
 
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LowlyPion said:
Aren't you supposed to be conserving linear momentum? Isn't that simply m x v ?
I am an idiot. I read waaaay to much into this problem. I got it. Thank you.
 
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