Elastic Collision of a ball and wire

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The problem involves an elastic collision between a 10.0 kg ball hanging from a wire and a 1.20 kg ball moving horizontally. The original poster seeks to find the tension in the wire immediately after the collision, indicating a focus on dynamics and collision mechanics.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply conservation of momentum to find the final velocity of the larger ball after the collision. Some participants question the treatment of the tension in the wire, particularly regarding the effects of horizontal velocity and vertical acceleration. Others suggest considering both momentum and energy conservation for a more complete analysis.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to account for the momentum of both balls after the collision, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or solution.

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There is a mention of the original poster's confusion regarding the tension calculation and the implications of the ball's horizontal velocity on the system's dynamics. The problem setup includes specific masses and velocities, but the participants are still clarifying the relationships between these variables.

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Homework Statement


An 10.0 kg ball, hanging from the ceiling by a light wire 125 cm long, is struck in an elastic collision by a 1.20 kg ball moving horizontally at 7.50 m/s just before the collision. Find the tension in the wire just after the collision.


Homework Equations


M1V1o + M2V1o = M1V2f + M2V2f

The Attempt at a Solution


(1.2 kg)(7.5 m/s) = (10 kg)(Vf)

Vf = 0.9 m/s

Fc = mV^2/R = (10 kg)(0.9^2)/(1.25 m) = 6.48 N

Fc = T - mg
6.48 = T - (10 kg)(9.8)

T = 104.48 N -- Book says it's incorrect, what am i doing wrong?
 
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Hi Quincy! :smile:
Quincy said:
An 10.0 kg ball, hanging from the ceiling by a light wire 125 cm long, is struck in an elastic collision by a 1.20 kg ball moving horizontally at 7.50 m/s just before the collision. Find the tension in the wire just after the collision.

why will the tension be different if the ball has a horizontal velocity?

Because although it has a purely horizontal velocity, it has a vertical acceleration. :wink:

Use Ftotal = ma. :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi Quincy! :smile:


Because although it has a purely horizontal velocity, it has a vertical acceleration. :wink:

Use Ftotal = ma. :smile:

I realized that right after i posted the problem :P, i edited it now but the answer's still incorrect.
 
Quincy said:
(1.2 kg)(7.5 m/s) = (10 kg)(Vf)

Nooo … you've ignored the momentum of the small ball after the collision. :redface:

Try again, using conservation of both momentum and energy. :smile:
 

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