B Electric+Magnetic Force Between a & b Charges: Inertial Frames

Tahmeed
Messages
81
Reaction score
4
Let's assume that a and b charges are moving. now in our lab frame there will be a electric+magnetic force whereas in a rest frame of either of the charges, there will be only an electric force.
So, two inertial observers will measure different forces?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Tahmeed said:
So, two inertial observers will measure different forces?
Relativistically, it is not really accurate to separate the electric and magnetic forces. What appears as an only an electric field in one frame will appear as a magnetic and an electric field in others. The electric and magnetic fields are two sides of the same coin.

Also, the concept of a regular 3-force is not invariant between frames. What you want to look at is the 4-force acting on an object and its corresponding proper acceleration.
 
  • Like
Likes Tahmeed
In any inertial reference frame the force on a charged particle is given by Lorentz
$$m \frac{\mathrm{d}^2 x^{\mu}}{\mathrm{d} \tau^2} = K^{\mu}=\frac{q}{c} F^{\mu \nu} \frac{\mathrm{d} x_{\nu}}{\mathrm{d} \tau},$$
i.e., the spatial components are
$$\vec{K}^{\mu} = \gamma q \left (\vec{E}+\frac{\vec{v}}{c} \times \vec{B} \right ),$$
where ##\vec{v}=\mathrm{d} \vec{x}/\mathrm{d} t## is the usual three-velocity in the given inertial reference frame, ##\gamma=(1-\vec{v}^2/c^2)^{-1/2}## the Lorentz factor, ##q## the electric charge of the particle, and ##(\vec{E},\vec{B})## the electromagnetic field.
 
Thread 'Can this experiment break Lorentz symmetry?'
1. The Big Idea: According to Einstein’s relativity, all motion is relative. You can’t tell if you’re moving at a constant velocity without looking outside. But what if there is a universal “rest frame” (like the old idea of the “ether”)? This experiment tries to find out by looking for tiny, directional differences in how objects move inside a sealed box. 2. How It Works: The Two-Stage Process Imagine a perfectly isolated spacecraft (our lab) moving through space at some unknown speed V...
Insights auto threads is broken atm, so I'm manually creating these for new Insight articles. The Relativator was sold by (as printed) Atomic Laboratories, Inc. 3086 Claremont Ave, Berkeley 5, California , which seems to be a division of Cenco Instruments (Central Scientific Company)... Source: https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/relativator-circular-slide-rule-simulated-with-desmos/ by @robphy
In Philippe G. Ciarlet's book 'An introduction to differential geometry', He gives the integrability conditions of the differential equations like this: $$ \partial_{i} F_{lj}=L^p_{ij} F_{lp},\,\,\,F_{ij}(x_0)=F^0_{ij}. $$ The integrability conditions for the existence of a global solution ##F_{lj}## is: $$ R^i_{jkl}\equiv\partial_k L^i_{jl}-\partial_l L^i_{jk}+L^h_{jl} L^i_{hk}-L^h_{jk} L^i_{hl}=0 $$ Then from the equation: $$\nabla_b e_a= \Gamma^c_{ab} e_c$$ Using cartesian basis ## e_I...
Back
Top