Electric potential due to long wire

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The discussion revolves around finding the electric potential at a distance r from an infinitely long straight line of charge, characterized by a linear charge density lambda. The original poster attempts to derive the potential using Gauss' law and expresses uncertainty about the evaluation of the potential at infinity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster calculates the electric field using Gauss' law and attempts to find the potential through integration. However, they express confusion about the limits of integration and the implications of evaluating at infinity.
  • Some participants question the validity of using infinity in the context of an infinitely long wire and suggest using an arbitrary point for integration instead.
  • Others raise concerns about boundary conditions and the differences in potential behavior between an infinite wire and a sphere.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and questioning the assumptions made regarding boundary conditions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the integration process and the use of arbitrary points, but no consensus has been reached on the evaluation of potential at infinity.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem involves an infinite length of wire, which complicates the use of traditional boundary conditions like V=0 at infinity. This raises questions about the nature of the charge distribution and its implications for potential evaluation.

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Homework Statement


Using Gauss' law, or otherwise, find an expression for electric potential at a distance r from an infinitely long straight line of charge of length h with linear charge density lambda per unit length.

Homework Equations



q=lambda*h


The Attempt at a Solution


The first part is easy, using gauss' law to find electric field..the result i get is

E=lambda/(2*pi*r*epsilon_0)

..which should be correct. But then I'm not sure how to find potential in this case. I tried using the equation:

E= - grad*V

so

V = integral[E*dl]

V= -lambda/(2*pi*epsilon_0) integral_from_infinity_to_r[(1/r) dr]

..which leads me to:

V = -lambda/(2*pi*epsilon_0) [ln(r)]

where the ln(r) is evaluated from infinity to r...and I am not sure that looks right, or where to go from there.. :confused: I don't know what the solution is supposed to be and I couldn't find any explanations when i googled it..anyone have any idea? :rolleyes: thankyou sooo much!
 
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Hello.

In fact that's the solution. That's life!
 
heh :redface: thankyou!
 
how do you evaluate ln at infinity and r??
 
pick an arbitrary point a, and integrate with respect to that point. you're correct that you can't integrate to an infinite potential at the wire.
 
the only way i can think of is that u have to assume the boundary condition that V=0 at infinity. but then that seems forced because when evaluating the similar case for a sphere u get a 1/r term and when u plug in infinity there it goes to zero (see griffiths 3rd ed example 2.6). can anyone reconcile these cases? i don't see any explanation above addressing this.
 
Hi,

You cannot use infinity, because the problem states that there is an infinite length of wire. This tells us that the charge is infinite. Using a variable like "a" is your best bet for solving the problem.
 

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