Electricity and Gravity Question

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving two charged pith balls suspended from a ceiling, analyzing the balance of electrical and gravitational forces when the balls are separated at a specific angle. The focus is on the calculations related to the charge on each ball and the forces acting on them, including gravitational and electric forces.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a calculation for the charge on the pith balls, noting a discrepancy with a textbook answer of 6.27 x 10^-7 C.
  • Another participant questions whether the equation used accounts for all sources of gravitational force, suggesting that the gravitational attraction between the balls may not be significant due to their small mass.
  • A participant expresses confusion about how to incorporate gravitational force into their calculations and whether the angle of separation affects this.
  • Another participant outlines the forces acting on each ball, emphasizing the need to consider gravitational force, electric force, and tension, and suggests setting up equations based on equilibrium conditions to solve for charge.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct approach to the problem. There are differing views on the significance of gravitational attraction between the balls and how to properly account for the forces involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the role of gravitational force in the calculations and how the angle of separation influences the forces acting on the pith balls. There is also a lack of clarity on how to formulate the equations needed to solve for the charge.

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This discussion may be useful for students working on problems involving electrostatics and gravitational forces, particularly those dealing with equilibrium conditions in physics.

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Two pith balls, each with a mass of 5.00g, are attached to non-conducting threads and suspended from the same point on the ceiling. Each thread has a length of 1.00m. The balls are then given an identical charge, which causes them to separate. At the point that the electrical and gravitational forces balance, the threads are separated by an angle of 30.0 degrees. Calculate the charge on each pith ball."

My answer isn't matching the textbooks of 6.27 x 10^-7 C

Relevant Equations:

Fg=Gm1m2/r^2
Fe=kq1q1/r^2

Attempt:

(G)(m)^2/r^2=(k)(q)^2/r^2

r^2 cancels out

G(m)^2=k(q)^2
root [(G)(m)^2]/k
=4.3 x 10^-13

Am i missing something? Or is the book wrong?
 
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Your equation is for the charge that balances the pith balls gravitational attraction for each other ... is there another source of gravity in the room?
 
Yes the gravity pulling the balls down. However, how would i write this gravity, it has me confused. Does the angle play a part?
 
You can ignore the gravitational attraction force between them as their masses are very small. Three forces acting on each ball. 1.mg vertically downward 2.electric force along the line joining them.
3.Tension acting towards the point of suspension.
Since the balls are in equilibrium, the net force along the string is zero. Resolve the forces along that direction and equate to 0.Also, the net force along the line joining them is 0. Resolve the forces in that direction and equate to 0. You now have 2 equations with 2. Variables that is Tension and Charge. Solve for charge.
 

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