Electron Excitation and Photon Emission: Understanding the Ground State

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An electron can absorb a photon and enter an excited state, then transition to a lower energy state without necessarily returning to the ground state. It is possible for the electron to emit a photon of higher frequency than the absorbed photon, as the extra energy for this emission comes from the electron's initial energy level above the ground state. The discussion clarifies that a higher wavelength corresponds to lower energy, and thus emitting a higher frequency photon is feasible if the electron transitions to a lower energy state. The selection rule must be followed for the emission to occur. Overall, an electron can emit a photon when moving to any lower energy state, not just the ground state.
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Just curious: if an electron absorbs a photon of energy, it is in an excited state. The electron may go to a lower energy state (but NOT the ground state). Can a photon (of higher wavelength than absorbed) be emitted still?

I don't quite see the importance of the electron having to go to the ground state in this case...
 
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Do you mean a longer wavelength, or a higher frequency? A "higher wavelength" doesn't make sense.

In any case, an electron can exist above the ground state, absorb a photon, and then fall to a lower state than what it was occupying emitting a photon of higher frequency than what it absorbed in the process.
 
Drakkith said:
Do you mean a longer wavelength, or a higher frequency? A "higher wavelength" doesn't make sense.

In any case, an electron can exist above the ground state, absorb a photon, and then fall to a lower state than what it was occupying emitting a photon of higher frequency than what it absorbed in the process.

Isn't a higher wavelength proportional to lower energy? How would it emit a higher energy photon (i.e. higher frequency) than what it absorbed?

So to confirm, a photon can still be emitted despite the electron not decaying to its ground state, just any state lower than its excited state, correct?
 
A photon can be emitted if the system goes from a higher energy state to a lower energy state (not necessarily the ground state), and if it abides by the selection rule.

Example: the Balmer lines in H atom.

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MathewsMD said:
Isn't a higher wavelength proportional to lower energy? How would it emit a higher energy photon (i.e. higher frequency) than what it absorbed?

The extra energy required to emit a photon of higher frequency than the electron absorbs comes from the extra energy it already had by being in a state above the ground state.

So to confirm, a photon can still be emitted despite the electron not decaying to its ground state, just any state lower than its excited state, correct?

Absolutely.
 
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