Electron's movement due to electric forces

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The discussion revolves around calculating the velocity of four electrons, initially positioned at the vertices of a square, as they move apart due to electric forces. The forces acting on each electron are derived from Coulomb's law, considering the contributions from adjacent and opposite electrons. The user expresses confusion about the changing acceleration as the distance between electrons increases, leading to a complex differential equation. A suggestion is made to use energy conservation principles, focusing on the conversion of potential energy into kinetic energy as the electrons move to infinity. The conversation concludes with a realization that the problem may be simpler than initially thought.
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Homework Statement


4 electrons are moving due to electric forces. Find their velocity when they are very far away from each other, if initially they were on a square's (side length a = 20 cm) vertexes.


Homework Equations


F = \frac{kq_1q_2}{r^2}
k = \frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_0}


The Attempt at a Solution


Firstly, each electron is pushed by the other three electrons. Let the forces be \vec{F_1}, \vec{F_2} and \vec{F_3}, and \vec{F_1}, \vec{F_2} are the forces exerted by adjacent electrons. Since those two vectors are right-angled, the scalar sum of those vectors will equal to F_{12} = \sqrt{F_1^2 + F_2^2}. Both those forces are F_1=F_2=\frac{kq^2}{x^2}, where q is electron's charge and x is distance between two electrons at some point of time. So F_{12} = \sqrt{2\frac{k^2 q^4}{x^4}} = \frac{k q^2}{x^2}\sqrt{2} The opposite electron's (to the first one) force vector is in the same direction as the force F_{12}, so F_{123} = F = F_3 + F_{12}. Since we have a square here: F_3 = \frac{kq^2}{ (\sqrt{2}x )^2 } = \frac{kq^2}{2x^2}. Now we know that F=ma, so ma = \frac{kq^2}{x^2}(\sqrt{2} + \frac{2}{2}). Now what's really confusing me is that the accelerations seems to be a variable here, since x is changing. I have found that v = \frac{d^2 x}{dt^2}t + \frac{d^3x}{dt^3}t^2, but that doesn't really help me a lot ( I don't know how to solve such differential equations).

Any help appreciated!
Rugile
 
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Have you considered an energy conservation approach? What's the total PE in the initial configuration?
 
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Would it be an idea to think of this in terms of energies? Because of the symmetry I would expect each electron to fly off into infinity, thereby converting electrostatic potential energy into kinetic energy.

Ah, again, even quick replies cross. Well, the hints are alike, so there you go...
 
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Oh, that's right! Not so difficult as I thought :) thank you!
 
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