Electrostatic potential from the perspective of an electron

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The discussion revolves around the concept of electrostatic potential from the perspective of an electron, exploring how electric potential influences electron movement in circuits and the implications of potential differences in various scenarios, including physiological effects. The scope includes theoretical and conceptual aspects of electrostatics and electric circuits.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how an electron perceives the electric potential in its environment and whether it can penetrate the skin of a person standing on insulating material.
  • Another participant clarifies that an electron does not "feel" electric potential but rather responds to the electric field, which is the gradient of the potential.
  • A different participant expresses curiosity about how a bird can "acquire" the potential of a power line after being on a tree with the same potential as the earth.
  • One participant asserts that touching a wire will result in a current flowing into a person until they reach the same potential as the wire, emphasizing the dangers of high voltage.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the nature of electric potential and electric fields, but there are differing views on the implications of potential acquisition and the specifics of electron behavior in insulating scenarios. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact conditions under which electrons interact with skin and the implications of potential differences.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the behavior of electrons in different materials and the physiological effects of electric current, which are not fully explored or defined in the discussion.

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Thinking in terms of electric circuits and electrostatic potential I understand how an electric current arises as manifestation of a difference in potential. How does this work at a more microscopic level? I.e. how does an electron know what potential it's environment is at?

E.g.: If I, standing on the earth, connect myself to a power plug, the electron in the wire just inside the wall will run through me. If I stand on some insulating material however, the electron will not. How precise is this? I.e. will there be virtually not a single electron penetrating my skin?

If a bird sits on a power line he "takes over" the potential of the power line (thereby avoiding any current through his body), right? Does this have any implications on a physiological level?

Looking forward to your thoughts...Cliowa
 
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An electron doesn't "feel" the electric potential at a point, any more than you "feel" the gravitational potential at the location where you're standing. That is, you don't "feel" any different standing on the first floor of a building than on the second floor, even though the second floor is at a higher graviational potential.

What the electron actually "feels" is the electric field E that acts on it, which is the gradient of the electric potential. The electric field produces the force which makes the electron move, via F = qE.

Inside a uniform wire with a fixed potential difference between its ends, the electric potential decreases steadily as you move from one end to the other, i.e. the gradient of the potential is uniform, and so is the electric field.
 
I agree completely. What puzzles me is rather the way the electrostatic potential can be "acquired" through contact. Example: A bird that first sat on some tree (which has the same potential as the earth) and then flies off to a power line, where he (suddenly?) "acquires" the potential of the power line.

Again: Is is really true that not a single electron from the power plug will penetrate my skin if I stand on some completely insulating material?
 
No, by touching a wire, a current will flow into you until you are at the same potential as the wire. At this point, the charge that you have acquired is equal to your capacitance times the voltage. With a wire at thousands of volts, you will therefore feel a jolt. It can seen that it is hazardous to touch a high voltage AC wire, since the current will never stop.
 

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