Electrostatics - two capacitors in parallel

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Two capacitors, 6 microFarads and 3 microFarads, are connected in parallel to a 24V source, resulting in an initial energy calculation of approximately 2.592 mJ. Upon disconnecting and reversing one capacitor, the charge distribution changes, leading to a new energy calculation of about 2.304 mJ, indicating energy loss of around 0.288 mJ. The charge cancels out when the capacitors are reconnected, affecting the final voltage and energy. To find the new voltage, the total charge after reconnection must be recalculated based on the new configuration. Understanding this charge cancellation and its effect on energy is crucial for solving the problem.
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Homework Statement



We begin with two capacitors c(1)=6 microFarad and c(2)=3 microFarad in parallel which are connected to V=24Volts. The charged capacitors are disconnected and is being connected to each other on opposite signs (+ to -). How much Energy is got wasted in the process?


Homework Equations



Energy=(1/2)CV^2=(1/2)QV

The Attempt at a Solution



I calculated the first array for energy and got 2.592X10^-3 Joules, and then the second array, which I am not sure how to get it right (and I will be more then happy if you can offer a general interpretation of the second state I mentioned) and I got 2.304X10^-3 Joules so the diff. is about 0.288X10^-3 Joules.
a) How should I calculate such a case (e.g. how the Charges/Capacities/Volts are being distributed after reconnection)?
b) What have I done wrong?

Thank you
 
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When you reverse the capacitors, use Q=CV to tell you what the final voltage is...
 
The new Q is just the same as the old one? (2.16X10^4 C)
 
zimo said:
The new Q is just the same as the old one? (2.16X10^4 C)

No, some of the charge gets canceled out when you reverse the orientation of the caps and reconnect them. If you have 2 coulombs on one cap and 3 columbs on the other (just making up round numbers here as an example), and then you reverse the caps, what it the net charge left on the parallel combination of those caps?
 
1 Coulomb.
As a matter of fact, I realized it 5 minutes after posting... but then got stuck again,
I think I really missing the logics behind the whole thing :-(
 
zimo said:
I realized it 5 minutes after posting... but then got stuck again,
I think I really missing the logics behind the whole thing :-(

I'll give one more hint, and then we need to see some more work from you. Initially you have the two caps in parallel, and you can calculate the charge on each based on the capacitances and voltage. Then when you disconnect them and invert one and reconnect them, some of the charge will cancel, and you will be left with the rest, now on the parallel combination of the caps. This new Q value and same total C value will give you a new voltage across the caps. Calculate this voltage, and then you can proceed to the energy change question.
 
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