Elementary Integration - First Principles?

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The discussion revolves around understanding integration from first principles, specifically whether there exists an equation for integration that can be explicitly solved similar to differentiation. The original poster expresses a desire to grasp the intuitive foundations of integration and how it is derived, particularly in relation to simple functions like f = x.

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  • The original poster attempts to formulate the integral using Riemann sums but encounters difficulties with cancellations and incorrect results. They seek clarity on the derivation of integration and its workings, akin to their understanding of differentiation and limits.

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Some participants provide guidance by referencing Riemann sums and suggest exploring specific integrals to deepen understanding. There is an indication that the computation of limits in Riemann sums can be complex, and one participant encourages working through examples to uncover patterns.

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Participants note the importance of foundational reading and suggest resources for further exploration of the topic. There is a mention of the need for thorough engagement with materials rather than superficial reading.

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Is there an first-principles equation for integration that can be explicitly solved like that for differentiation? - I'm trying to understand Integration intuitively. Thanks heaps.

I've tried to piece together one but can't quite solve it (for simple functions like f = x). Things cancel and disappear and I get obviously wrong results.\int^{x_{2}}_{x_{1}}F(x)dx=lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\sum^{n}_{i=0}F(x_{1} + i\Deltax)\Deltax in which \Deltax=\frac{x_{2}-x_{1}}{n}

I want to know how integration was derived and how it works, like I do with differentiation and limits.

Thanks for reading my post.
 
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SigmaScheme said:
Is there an first-principles equation for integration that can be explicitly solved like that for differentiation? - I'm trying to understand Integration intuitively. Thanks heaps.

I've tried to piece together one but can't quite solve it (for simple functions like f = x). Things cancel and disappear and I get obviously wrong results.


\int^{x_{2}}_{x_{1}}F(x)dx=lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\sum^{n}_{i=0}F(x_{1} + i\Deltax)\Deltax in which \Deltax=\frac{x_{2}-x_{1}}{n}

I want to know how integration was derived and how it works, like I do with differentiation and limits.

Thanks for reading my post.

Your topic needs too much reading/writing for a response in this forum. I suggest you DO some reading on the subject. There are numerous books available, and lots of material available on-line. One free article that seems to deal exactly with your issues is in http://www.maths.uq.edu.au/~jab/qamttalkmay2002.pdf , which was written for beginning students. Make sure you read the _whole_ thing; don't just look at page 1 and say "that is not what I need".

RGV
 
SigmaScheme said:
Is there an first-principles equation for integration that can be explicitly solved like that for differentiation? - I'm trying to understand Integration intuitively. Thanks heaps.

I've tried to piece together one but can't quite solve it (for simple functions like f = x). Things cancel and disappear and I get obviously wrong results.\int^{x_{2}}_{x_{1}}F(x)dx=lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\sum^{n}_{i=0}F(x_{1} + i\Deltax)\Deltax in which \Deltax=\frac{x_{2}-x_{1}}{n}

I want to know how integration was derived and how it works, like I do with differentiation and limits.

Thanks for reading my post.

You seem to have seen Riemann sums, but this is the basic theory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riemann_integral

The computation of the limit of the Riemann sums is not always straightforward or easy.

It's very instructive to work out the Riemann integral of

\int^{1}_{0}x^2\ dx

from first principles. You'll see when you do it that it's related to a well-known formula from discrete mathematics.

Then try \int^{1}_{0}x^3\ dx

and see how far you can generalize the pattern.

Doing these by hand directly from the definition of the Riemann integral is an extremely edifying and also entertaining exercise. There's actually a mathematical punchline in there ... a little discovery that's the payoff for doing this by hand.
 
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