Eletromagnétic field representation

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The discussion centers on the representation of electromagnetic fields in educational settings, specifically the transition from full field representations to simplified wave forms. The participant expresses concern about the loss of information when omitting certain elements, such as the magnetic field vector. A key takeaway is the relationship defined by the Poynting vector, where if the electric field vector (\(\vec E\)) and the Poynting vector (\(\vec S\)) are known, the magnetic field vector (\(\vec B\)) can be uniquely determined, thus justifying the simplification in teaching. Recommendations for reliable explanations and resources are sought to enhance clarity in instruction.

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Hello so my doubt is when i are teaching about eletromagnétic filds the frist time a do a representatios is of a full field i Draw the two waves, ume perpendicular to another, and istill i know that's not the best representatios because i should have to rolate the wave while a draw.

Later in the same Class i stop drawing the full eletromagnétic field and it's became a simple wave, but iknow that's when i do this some of the informations is lost and i never could explain to the studentes why i do this, i just do and i know i cam from the textsbooks. So here's my doubt who do i explain to them that's is reliable do this change in the way a represents the eletromagnétic field, i wold really apreciate if some on has a demostration to this ou a textbook to recomendate.

Sorry for my bad english I'm not native in english.
 
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PrimoCosta said:
Summary: diferences between two kinds of representation.

who do i explain to them that's is reliable do this change in the way a represents the eletromagnétic field
In the far field you have ##\vec S=\vec E \times \vec B## so if you show ##\vec E## and you know ##\vec S## then ##\vec B## is uniquely determined and doesn’t need to be drawn.
 
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Thank you it really helps i don't like entering in class with half explanation.
 
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