Elliptic functions, periodic lattice, equivalence classes

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The discussion revolves around the concept of equivalence classes in the context of elliptic functions and periodic lattices, specifically focusing on the set defined by ##\Omega = {nw_1+mw_2| m,n \in Z}## and the equivalence relation ##z_1 ~ z_2## defined by the condition that ##z_1 - z_2 \in \Omega##. Participants are exploring the implications of these definitions and how they relate to the structure of the complex numbers.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the nature of equivalence classes and their partitioning properties, questioning whether two equivalence classes can be equal or disjoint. They also explore how to determine which elements of ##\mathbb{C}## belong to the same equivalence class based on the chosen basis. Additionally, there are inquiries about the notation used for equivalence classes and whether different representations imply the same equivalence.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants raising questions about the definitions and properties of equivalence classes and cosets. Some participants suggest that equivalence classes form a partition of the set, while others express confusion about the implications of this statement. There is no explicit consensus, but various interpretations and clarifications are being explored.

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Participants are working under the constraints of their notes, which may not fully clarify the definitions and properties of equivalence classes and cosets. There is an ongoing examination of the relationship between the equivalence relation and the structure of the complex numbers, as well as the implications of the chosen basis for ##\Omega##.

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Homework Statement



##\Omega = {nw_1+mw_2| m,n \in Z} ##

##z_1 ~ z_2 ## is defined by if ##z_1-z_2 \in \Omega ##

My notes say ##z + \Omega## are the cosets/ equivalence classes , denoted by ##[z] = {z+mw_1+nw_2} ##

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The Attempt at a Solution



So equivalance classe form a partition, i.e. two elements that are equivalent are within the same equivalence class,

But if I consider ##\Omega ## with basis ##w_1 = i ## ##w_2 =1 ##

##z_1 = 1/2 + i/2 ##, ##z_2 = 1/2-i/2##
Then ##z_1 - z_2 = i \in \Omega ## , ##(m=1, n=0)##

And so ##z_1 ~ z_2 ## so these two are in the same equivalent class right?

However my notes say that ##[z_1]## and ##[z_2]## are each equivalence classes, or is this definition not ##\all z \in C##, what is an efficient way to look, from the basis, which ##z \in C## are equivalent so how many equivalence classes there will be?

thanks in advance

- also a notation question:
Say ##~## is defined by the difference between ##x \in Z## being ##2##, then equivalence classes are odd and even numbers, and we use the notation ##[1],[7],[3]..## represent the same element for ##Z/\~##

Can you equally use the notation ##[1]=[7]## (mod 2) ?

So above I can either say:
- ##[z_1]=[z_2] ## (mod ##\Omega##)
OR
- ##[z_1],[z_2] ## represent the same element for ##C/\Omega##

and these mean the same thing?
 
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binbagsss said:

Homework Statement



##\Omega = {nw_1+mw_2| m,n \in Z} ##

##z_1 ~ z_2 ## is defined by if ##z_1-z_2 \in \Omega ##

My notes say ##z + \Omega## are the cosets/ equivalence classes , denoted by ##[z] = {z+mw_1+nw_2} ##

Homework Equations



above

The Attempt at a Solution



So equivalance classe form a partition, i.e. two elements that are equivalent are within the same equivalence class,
I think you are looking for "two equivalence classes are either equal or disjoint".

But if I consider ##\Omega ## with basis ##w_1 = i ## ##w_2 =1 ##

##z_1 = 1/2 + i/2 ##, ##z_2 = 1/2-i/2##
Then ##z_1 - z_2 = i \in \Omega ## , ##(m=1, n=0)##

And so ##z_1 ~ z_2 ## so these two are in the same equivalent class right?

However my notes say that ##[z_1]## and ##[z_2]## are each equivalence classes, or is this definition not ##\all z \in C##, what is an efficient way to look, from the basis, which ##z \in C## are equivalent so how many equivalence classes there will be?

The latex for ~ is \sim.

[z] is the equivalence class of z. [w] is the equivalence class of w. If z ~ w then [z] and [w] are different names for the same set. You should think of [\cdot] as a function from \mathbb{C} to the set of equivalence classes.

Frequently we want to define a function from the set of equivalence classes to some other set where the image of [z] is given by a formula involving z; here we must check that the formula gives the same result for every w \in [z].

For example:

Since \{w_1,w_2\} is a basis for \mathbb{C}, for each z \in \mathbb{C} there exists a unique (n,m) \in \mathbb{Z}^2 and a unique (u,v) \in [0,1)^2 such that z = (n + u)w_1 + (m + v)w_2. Then z_1 \sim z_2 if and only if u(z_1) = u(z_2) and v(z_1) = v(z_2). Hence we may define a bijection \phi from the set E of equivalence classes to [0,1)^2 by \phi([z]) = (u(z),v(z)).
 
binbagsss said:

Homework Statement



##\Omega = {nw_1+mw_2| m,n \in Z} ##

##z_1 ~ z_2 ## is defined by if ##z_1-z_2 \in \Omega ##

My notes say ##z + \Omega## are the cosets/ equivalence classes , denoted by ##[z] = {z+mw_1+nw_2} ##

Homework Equations



above

The Attempt at a Solution



So equivalance classe form a partition, i.e. two elements that are equivalent are within the same equivalence class,
I think you are looking for "two equivalence classes are either equal or disjoint".

But if I consider ##\Omega ## with basis ##w_1 = i ## ##w_2 =1 ##

##z_1 = 1/2 + i/2 ##, ##z_2 = 1/2-i/2##
Then ##z_1 - z_2 = i \in \Omega ## , ##(m=1, n=0)##

And so ##z_1 ~ z_2 ## so these two are in the same equivalent class right?

However my notes say that ##[z_1]## and ##[z_2]## are each equivalence classes, or is this definition not ##\all z \in C##, what is an efficient way to look, from the basis, which ##z \in C## are equivalent so how many equivalence classes there will be?

The latex for ~ is \sim.

[z] is the equivalence class of z. [w] is the equivalence class of w. If z ~ w then [z] and [w] are different names for the same set. You should think of [\cdot] as a function from \mathbb{C} to the set of equivalence classes.

Frequently we want to define a function from the set of equivalence classes to some other set where the image of [z] is given by a formula involving z; here we must check that the formula gives the same result for every w \in [z].

For example:

Since \{w_1,w_2\} is a basis for \mathbb{C}, for each z \in \mathbb{C} there exists a unique (n,m) \in \mathbb{Z}^2 and a unique (u,v) \in [0,1)^2 such that z = (n + u)w_1 + (m + v)w_2. Then z_1 \sim z_2 if and only if u(z_1) = u(z_2) and v(z_1) = v(z_2). Hence we may define a bijection \phi from the set E of equivalence classes to [0,1)^2 by \phi([z]) = (u(z),v(z)).
 
pasmith said:
I think you are looking for "two equivalence classes are either equal or disjoint".
The latex for ~ is \sim.

[z] is the equivalence class of z. [w] is the equivalence class of w. If z ~ w then [z] and [w] are different names for the same set. You should think of [\cdot] as a function from \mathbb{C} to the set of equivalence classes.

Frequently we want to define a function from the set of equivalence classes to some other set where the image of [z] is given by a formula involving z; here we must check that the formula gives the same result for every w \in [z].

For example:

Since \{w_1,w_2\} is a basis for \mathbb{C}, for each z \in \mathbb{C} there exists a unique (n,m) \in \mathbb{Z}^2 and a unique (u,v) \in [0,1)^2 such that z = (n + u)w_1 + (m + v)w_2. Then z_1 \sim z_2 if and only if u(z_1) = u(z_2) and v(z_1) = v(z_2). Hence we may define a bijection \phi from the set E of equivalence classes to [0,1)^2 by \phi([z]) = (u(z),v(z)).

Okay so equivalence classes may be either equal or disjoint, fine.
Now I think my confusion is coming from this... cosets form a partition of the set right?
To be a partition they must be disjoint,##z_1## and ##z_2## are not, they are equal? But my notes say ##[z] ## are cosets?
Or cosets do not form a partition?
Or when my notes say ##[z] ## are cosets it is referring to non-equivalent ##z_i ## s ?

thanks
 

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