Energy and motion from ##R^6 \rightarrow R##

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between energy, motion, and dimensionality in the context of a function mapping from a 6-dimensional space to a real number. Participants explore the implications of energy being constant and the interpretation of motion occurring on a 5-dimensional surface rather than in a full 6-dimensional space.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that energy is a function of space and velocity, expressed as a function from ##\mathbb{R}^6## to ##\mathbb{R}##, and questions the teacher's assertion about motion being on a 5-dimensional surface.
  • Another participant notes that the constancy of energy, represented as ##E(\vec{x}(t), \vec{\dot{x}}(t)) = E_0##, follows from the relationship ##E = K(\vec{\dot{x}}) + U(\vec{x})##, suggesting a connection between kinetic and potential energy.
  • Two posts inquire about the nature of the object defined by the equation $$f(x,y) = x^2 + y^2 = R^2$$, indicating a focus on geometric interpretations of constant functions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the dimensionality of motion and whether it is correctly understood as being confined to a 5-dimensional surface. There is no consensus on the interpretation of the teacher's statement or the implications of the energy function.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the definitions of energy, motion, and dimensionality that are not fully explored. The relationship between kinetic and potential energy is presented without detailed derivation or clarification of terms.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in theoretical physics, mathematical modeling of motion, and the geometric interpretation of energy functions may find this discussion relevant.

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We know that energy is a function of space and velocity and it’s constant (in ideal case) though time.
So ## E(\vec{x}(t) , \vec{\dot{x}}(t)) = E_0##

where ##\vec{x} , \vec{\dot{x}} \in \mathbb{R}^3##.
So my function is ##E : \mathbb{R}^6 \rightarrow \mathbb{R}##.

Then there is my question: my teacher said that the motion will not be in a 6-dimensional space but on a 5-dimensional *surface*.
I don’t understand that statement (and maybe I understood it wrongly).
Anybody can help me?
 
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That fact ## E(\vec{x}(t) , \vec{\dot{x}}(t)) = E_0## is a consequence of ##E= K(\vec{\dot{x}})+ U(\vec{x})##
 
$$ f(x,y) =x^2 +y^2=R^2 $$
What kind of object is defined by f(x,y)=constant?
 
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nasu said:
$$ f(x,y) =x^2 +y^2=R^2 $$
What kind of object is defined by f(x,y)=constant?
Wow, thanks, you're right.
 

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