Energy in a charged metal plate

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The discussion centers on the energy contained in a charged metal plate, specifically a plate with charge Q. It explores whether the energy is independent of the method used to charge the plate, particularly when considering the mechanical energy required to separate two oppositely charged plates to infinity. The energy spent in this separation is described using the formula Q^2/4π(ε₀)r, which relates to the conservation of energy principle. The conversation also touches on the energy stored in a capacitor, expressed as 1/2CV^2, and the confusion surrounding the energy associated with a single charged plate. Ultimately, the participants seek clarity on whether the energy from separating the plates is indeed stored as electrical energy.
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Hi all,
If i have a charged plate of charge Q coulumbs, then what is the energy contained in it?
Is the energy independent of the way in which i managed to get a single plate of Q columbs charge? In the sense , suppose in the beginning there were two plates of charge +Q, -Q columbs and distance r apart, then i manage to apply mechanical energy against the electrostatic force of attraction between the plates and i separate it to large( say infinite) distance apart, then the mechanical energy spent will be--
Q^2/ 4pi(epsilon o)r

from law of conservation of energy this mechanical energy spent in seperating the plates must be stored as electric energy?? I am confused please help.
 
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The energy stored in a capacitor is 1/2CV^2...

for a parallel plate configuration, C= keA/d.

So yes, this is the potential energy, the amount of work, in theory required to separate the plates to infinity...to pull the charges apart...or it's the amount of energy recovered if the plates are allowed to come together...and it's the amount of chemical energy depleted from a battery charging the plates.


your stated formula looks like one for an isolated spherical configuration, hence "R":

The potential for an isolated conducting sphere is V = q/4pi eR, so W= qV becomes

W=q^2/4pi eR...but that's not for a parallel plate capacitor...
 
Ok, say the energy is .5CV^2
Then the energy required to separate it is .5CV^2.
From the law of conservation of energy this energy is converted to another form.
I want to know if it is infact stored as electrical energy in the two charged plates.
There doesn't seem to be a way in which we can find the energy on a charged, single plate.
 
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