Energy in a spring-mass system problem

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In a spring-mass system with a spring stiffness of 250 N/m and mass of 0.4 kg, the maximum stretch and maximum speed were calculated successfully. The discussion focused on determining the average power input required to maintain steady oscillation while accounting for energy dissipation of 0.02 J per cycle. The correct approach involves calculating the period of oscillation and using it to find the power in watts. The final calculated power input needed to sustain the system was determined to be 0.8 watts. This conclusion highlights the importance of understanding energy dissipation in oscillatory systems.
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A horizontal spring-mass system has low friction, spring stiffness 250 N/m, and mass 0.4 kg. The system is released with an initial compression of the spring of 13 cm and an initial speed of the mass of 3 m/s.
(a) What is the maximum stretch during the motion?

(b) What is the maximum speed during the motion?

(c) Now suppose that there is energy dissipation of 0.02 J per cycle of the spring-mass system. What is the average power input in watts required to maintain a steady oscillation?
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i was able to solve a and b right but having problems with c. Thanks for looking.
 
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Well, figure out how long it takes a cycle to happen, (the period) and then divide by 0.02 and this will be the joules dissipated per second.

Then this will be the amount of joules you need to keep pumping into the system to keep it going. (Remember watts is joules per second).

Does that sound reasonable?
 
Andrusko said:
Well, figure out how long it takes a cycle to happen, (the period) and then divide by 0.02 and this will be the joules dissipated per second.

Then this will be the amount of joules you need to keep pumping into the system to keep it going. (Remember watts is joules per second).

Does that sound reasonable?

Thanks for your reply. So do i find W which is equal to sqrt(K/m) and from there find the Period and do the rest? Thanks
 
Yeah. And remember:

\omega = 2\pi f

T = \frac{1}{f}

That should be enough to get to the answer.
 
Sorry I said before to divide the period by 0.2, I meant divide 0.2 by the period. If you look at it in terms of units:

\frac{\frac{J}{cycle}}{\frac{s}{cycle}} = \frac{J}{cycle} X \frac{cycle}{s} = \frac{J}{s}

Remembering when dividing fractions you just multiply by the inverse of the bottom fraction...
 
Andrusko said:
Yeah. And remember:

\omega = 2\pi f

T = \frac{1}{f}

That should be enough to get to the answer.

I calculated W = sqrt(250/0.4) and i got 25 for w. Then w = 2*pi*f and got f = w/2*pi = 3.978 then 1/f to get T so T = 0.251 and i divided that by 0.02 and got 12.56 but the answer was incorrect.
 
Andrusko said:
Sorry I said before to divide the period by 0.2, I meant divide 0.2 by the period. If you look at it in terms of units:

\frac{\frac{J}{cycle}}{\frac{s}{cycle}} = \frac{J}{cycle} X \frac{cycle}{s} = \frac{J}{s}

Remembering when dividing fractions you just multiply by the inverse of the bottom fraction...

Thank you got it
 
Sorry I misled you... see previous post.

My answer was 0.8 watts.
 
Andrusko said:
Sorry I misled you... see previous post.

My answer was 0.8 watts.

Thanks man your awsome.
 
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