Energy of Electrons: Explained

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The discussion centers on the conflicting explanations of electron energy levels in relation to their distance from the nucleus and from each other. Electrons further from the nucleus possess higher energy due to their position in higher energy orbitals, while greater distances between two electrons result in lower energy due to repulsive forces. The confusion arises from the differing effects of attractive and repulsive forces on potential energy, where attractive forces increase energy with distance and repulsive forces decrease it. The importance of the sign in potential energy equations is emphasized, as it indicates whether the interaction is attractive or repulsive. Understanding these principles clarifies how electron energy levels are influenced by their spatial relationships.
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So when my book explains energy of electrons it says that the further an electron is from the nucleus the higher the energy, which is why orbitals that are further away have higher energy levels. Then later in the chapter it explains that the greater the distance between two electrons, the lower the energy. I don't understand how the first case is possible. Electric potential energy = kq1q2/r, so increasing distance, decreases the electric potential energy. Also why would the energy of the electron depend on the charges (One situation the energy increases with distance while the other, energy decreases with distance)? Doesn't the sign just denote if it is attractive or repulsive, and the magnitude actually shows the energy?
 
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The sign is important . Comparisons are drawn based on the algebriac value of potential energy .
 
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So when my book explains energy of electrons it says that the further an electron is from the nucleus the higher the energy, which is why orbitals that are further away have higher energy levels. Then later in the chapter it explains that the greater the distance between two electrons, the lower the energy. I don't understand how the first case is possible. Electric potential energy = kq1q2/r, so increasing distance, decreases the electric potential energy. Also why would the energy of the electron depend on the charges (One situation the energy increases with distance while the other, energy decreases with distance)? Doesn't the sign just denote if it is attractive or repulsive, and the magnitude actually shows the energy?

If a force is attractive, then the further away two particles are, the greater their potential energy.

If the force is repulsive, then the further away two particles are, the lower is their potential energy.
 
Theexpression "Potential Well" is a good description and a way of remembering which way round the sign goes. Start with zero potential at infinity (great distance) and fall down (negative) you get closer.
 
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