Entropy in polytropic processes

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The discussion revolves around understanding entropy changes in polytropic processes, specifically for a gas undergoing expansion in an air turbine. The user seeks assistance in deriving the entropy change formula and determining whether the flow during the process is reversible or irreversible, along with calculating the net entropy change per unit mass of air. Although the user has attempted to manipulate the entropy equations, they express confusion and request step-by-step guidance and resources to improve their understanding of entropy applications. The conversation emphasizes the need for clarity in applying theoretical concepts to practical problems in thermodynamics.
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I have question on entropy for which I have no idea about, please help me out...

a) Change of entropy of a gas is given with usual notations by:
s2-s1=cvln(T2/T1)+Rln(V2/V1)

using this relationship, show that for a polytropic process, entropy change can be expressed as:
s2-s1=cv(n-k/n-1)ln(T2/T1)

b) In an air turbine air expands from 7bar and 460°C to 1.012bar and 160°C. This process can be assumed as a polytropic process. Determine,

1) Whether the flow is reversible or irreversible
2) The net entropy change per unit mass of air.Please give me a step wise calculation on how to arrive at the answers 'cos I'm so weak in entropy. Additionally I would appreciate if someone can give me links for a site where I can bring my entropy knowledge up to level 'cos, even though I understand the Clausis inequality and the derivation of entropy property, I'm at a loss on how to apply it in a question such as this...

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nvjnj said:

Homework Statement



I have question on entropy for which I have no idea about, please help me out...

a) Change of entropy of a gas is given with usual notations by:
s2-s1=cvln(T2/T1)+Rln(V2/V1)

using this relationship, show that for a polytropic process, entropy change can be expressed as:
s2-s1=cv(n-k/n-1)ln(T2/T1)

b) In an air turbine air expands from 7bar and 460°C to 1.012bar and 160°C. This process can be assumed as a polytropic process. Determine,

1) Whether the flow is reversible or irreversible
2) The net entropy change per unit mass of air.Please give me a step wise calculation on how to arrive at the answers 'cos I'm so weak in entropy. Additionally I would appreciate if someone can give me links for a site where I can bring my entropy knowledge up to level 'cos, even though I understand the Clausis inequality and the derivation of entropy property, I'm at a loss on how to apply it in a question such as this...

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Ok, here is an attempt at the question...

Let s2-s1=cvln(T2/T1)+Rln(V2/V1)----------(1)Polytropic Process : PVk=c
rearranging and substituting gives : V2/V1=(T2/T1)(-1/k-1)

Substituting to (1) gives; s2-s1=cvln(T2/T1)+Rln(T2/T1)(-1/k-1)

Rearranging and simplifying : s2-s1=cvln(T2/T1)-(R/k-1)ln(T2/T1)-----------------------(2)

Using the relationship : cp=cv+R
rearranging : (cp/cv)=1+(R/cv)
which gives : k-1=(R/cv)---->cv(k-1)=R---------------(3)

Substituting (3) to (2) gives :
s2-s1=cvln(T2/T1)-(cv/k-1)(k-1)ln(T2/T1)

Which gives me s2-s1=0 ...which is not what I need! Please help me out...
 
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