Equation of resistance from given graph

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The discussion revolves around deriving the equation of resistance from a given graph, specifically focusing on the relationship between resistance and temperature as expressed in logarithmic form. The subject area pertains to thermodynamics and electrical resistance.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the definitions of variables such as ##R(0)## and ##T_○##, questioning their roles in the equations derived from the graph. There are discussions about the appropriateness of including certain terms in the linear equation and the implications of different assumptions regarding the constants involved.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing alternative perspectives on how to approach the problem. Some suggest reframing the linear equation to clarify the relationships between the variables, while others express uncertainty about the definitions of the constants and their relevance to the options provided in the problem.

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There is an indication that the options provided in the problem may refer to different interpretations of the constants involved, leading to confusion about the correct form of the resistance equation. Participants are navigating these ambiguities without reaching a consensus on the definitions or the correct approach.

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Homework Statement
Given the graph of ##lnR## vs ##T^{-2}##, predict the relationship between resistance and temperature
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From the graph:
$$lnR(T)=\frac{-lnR(0)T^2_○}{T^2}+lnR(0)$$
I have assumed ##R(0)## to be the value of ##R## at ##1/T^2=0## and ##T_○## to be the value of ##T## at ##lnR(T)=0##
From this I get,
$$R(T)=e^{lnR(0)×\left(1-\frac{T_○^2}{T^2}\right)}$$
$$R(T)=R(0)^{\left(1-\frac{T_○^2}{T^2}\right)}$$
This does not match with any of the options.
I couldn't reduce it any of the options either.

Maybe my choice of ##R(0)## and the one in the options refer to different quantities. Even so I could not get to the right answer(given option-c in the book).

Please help
 
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Aurelius120 said:
I have assumed ##R(0)## to be the value of ##R## at ##1/T^2=0## and ##T_○## to be the value of ##T## at ##lnR(T)=0##
I would assume R0 is the value of R when T=T0.
 
It is unclear to me why you have included ##\ln R_0## in the linear term. There is no reason to.

I suggest you write the linear equation on a more agnostic form ##\ln R = -k/T^2 + m##, solve for ##R##, and only then try to identify ##R_0## and ##T_0##.
 
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haruspex said:
I would assume R0 is the value of R when T=T0.
I would not assume anything. I would wait with introducing the constants ##R_0## and ##T_0## until I can introduce them to get the result on one of the given forms. As should be clear from the given forms, ##R_0## is the value of ##R## in particular limits depending on the option. (##T = 0## for a and b, ##T \to \infty## for c, and ##T = 1## for d)
 
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Orodruin said:
It is unclear to me why you have included ##\ln R_0## in the linear term. There is no reason to.

I suggest you write the linear equation on a more agnostic form ##\ln R = -k/T^2 + m##, solve for ##R##, and only then try to identify ##R_0## and ##T_0##.
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$$ln(R(T))=\frac{-k}{T^2}+m$$
$$R(T)=e^{(-k/T^2+m)}=e^m×e^{-k/T^2}=R_○e^{-T_○^2/T^2}$$
 
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