Equation of Tangent Line to Curve at Point

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The discussion revolves around finding the parametric equations for the tangent line to a curve defined by specific parametric equations at a given point. The curve is represented by the equations x = t, y = e^{-4t}, and z = 5t - t^5, with the point of interest being P = (0, 1, 0).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants describe their attempts to compute the tangent line by finding the derivative of the parametric equations and evaluating them at the specified point. There is confusion regarding the correct form of the y-component of the tangent line, with some participants questioning the necessity of the exponential term in their calculations.

Discussion Status

Multiple interpretations of the tangent line's parametric equations are being explored, particularly concerning the y-component. Participants are actively questioning their assumptions and calculations, leading to a deeper examination of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the evaluation of derivatives, but no consensus has been reached on the correct form of the equations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note discrepancies between their results and those provided by an online homework platform, leading to discussions about potential errors in their calculations. There is an acknowledgment of confusion regarding the evaluation of the derivatives at the point of interest.

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Homework Statement


Find parametric equations for the tangent line to the curve with the given parametric equations at the specified point.

Homework Equations


x = t \\<br /> y = e^{-4t} \\<br /> z = 5t - t^5 \\<br /> P = (0, 1, 0)

The Attempt at a Solution


\vec{r}(t) = &lt; t, e^{-4t}, 5t - t^5 &gt;
At the point (0, 1, 0), t = 0.

\vec{r &#039;}(t) = &lt; 1, -4e^{-4t}, 5 - 5t^4 &gt;

x&#039; = 1 \\<br /> y &#039; = -4e^{-4t} \\<br /> z &#039; = 5 - 5t^4
These are the x, y, and z equations for the rate of change of the curve in the x, y, and z directions respectively (or, the slopes/direction of the tangent lines at the point when t = some number).

At t = 0, the x, y, and z slopes of the tangent lines are:
x&#039; = 1 \\<br /> y&#039; = -4e^{-4} \\<br /> z&#039; = 4

A point on the single tangent line of the curve (found by adding the vectors x', y', and z') is (0, 1, 0)—since the curve touches that point, too. The direction vector of the single tangent line is < 1, -4(e-4), 4 >. The parameter is t.

So the vector equation of the tangent line of the curve at the point (0, 1, 0) is:
(x(t), y(t), z(t)) = (0, 1, 0) + t&lt;1, \frac{-4}{E^{4}}, 4&gt; = &lt; t, 1 -\frac{4t}{E^{4}}, 4t &gt;

This, according to Webassign, is incorrect.

Their answer the same, except their y-component is 1 -4t. They... dropped the exponential in the denominator? I can't figure out why that is the correct answer, and why my answer is incorrect.
 
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AmagicalFishy said:

Homework Statement


Find parametric equations for the tangent line to the curve with the given parametric equations at the specified point.

Homework Equations


x = t \\<br /> y = e^{-4t} \\<br /> z = 5t - t^5 \\<br /> P = (0, 1, 0)

The Attempt at a Solution


\vec{r}(t) = &lt; t, e^{-4t}, 5t - t^5 &gt;
At the point (0, 1, 0), t = 0.

\vec{r &#039;}(t) = &lt; 1, -4e^{-4t}, 5 - 5t^4 &gt;

x&#039; = 1 \\<br /> y &#039; = -4e^{-4t} \\<br /> z &#039; = 5 - 5t^4
These are the x, y, and z equations for the rate of change of the curve in the x, y, and z directions respectively (or, the slopes/direction of the tangent lines at the point when t = some number).

At t = 0, the x, y, and z slopes of the tangent lines are:
x&#039; = 1 \\<br /> y&#039; = -4e^{-4} \\<br /> z&#039; = 4

A point on the single tangent line of the curve (found by adding the vectors x', y', and z') is (0, 1, 0)—since the curve touches that point, too. The direction vector of the single tangent line is < 1, -4(e-4), 4 >. The parameter is t.

So the vector equation of the tangent line of the curve at the point (0, 1, 0) is:
(x(t), y(t), z(t)) = (0, 1, 0) + t&lt;1, \frac{-4}{E^{4}}, 4&gt; = &lt; t, 1 -\frac{4t}{E^{4}}, 4t &gt;

This, according to Webassign, is incorrect.

Their answer the same, except their y-component is 1 -4t. They... dropped the exponential in the denominator? I can't figure out why that is the correct answer, and why my answer is incorrect.

If I put t=0 into -4e^(-4t) I get -4*e^0=(-4).
 
AmagicalFishy said:

Homework Statement


Find parametric equations for the tangent line to the curve with the given parametric equations at the specified point.

Homework Equations


x = t \\<br /> y = e^{-4t} \\<br /> z = 5t - t^5 \\<br /> P = (0, 1, 0)

The Attempt at a Solution


\vec{r}(t) = &lt; t, e^{-4t}, 5t - t^5 &gt;
At the point (0, 1, 0), t = 0.

\vec{r &#039;}(t) = &lt; 1, -4e^{-4t}, 5 - 5t^4 &gt;

Right. So ##\vec r'(0) = \langle 1, -4, 5\rangle##. That gives you the direction vector of that tangent line for ##t=0##.

x&#039; = 1 \\<br /> y &#039; = -4e^{-4t} \\<br /> z &#039; = 5 - 5t^4
These are the x, y, and z equations for the rate of change of the curve in the x, y, and z directions respectively (or, the slopes/direction of the tangent lines at the point when t = some number).

At t = 0, the x, y, and z slopes of the tangent lines are:
x&#039; = 1 \\<br /> y&#039; = -4e^{-4} \\<br /> z&#039; = 4

A point on the single tangent line of the curve (found by adding the vectors x', y', and z') is (0, 1, 0)—since the curve touches that point, too. The direction vector of the single tangent line is < 1, -4(e-4), 4 >. The parameter is t.

So the vector equation of the tangent line of the curve at the point (0, 1, 0) is:
(x(t), y(t), z(t)) = (0, 1, 0) + t&lt;1, \frac{-4}{E^{4}}, 4&gt; = &lt; t, 1 -\frac{4t}{E^{4}}, 4t &gt;

This, according to Webassign, is incorrect.

Their answer the same, except their y-component is 1 -4t. They... dropped the exponential in the denominator? I can't figure out why that is the correct answer, and why my answer is incorrect.

After you correct it, you still won't agree because their last component is wrong; it should be ##5t##.

[Edit] Actually, it's your last component that is also wrong.
 
Oh.

I was plugging in the components of the vector, not the parameter (so plugging 1 into the y-equation). I don't know why. Thinking and typing one thing, doing a completely different thing, and was totally unaware of it.

-______________________-

Thanks, guys.
 

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