Equilibrium and Statics involving a mass attached to three strings

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The discussion revolves around solving a statics problem involving a mass attached to three strings, where two strings are at a 25° angle. The initial attempt to create equations for the x-axis and y-axis reveals that the two angled strings cancel each other out, leading to a statically indeterminate situation. To resolve this, additional equations are necessary, and the concept of string extensibility is introduced as a potential solution. By considering the small extension of the center string, the tensions in the other two strings can be calculated in proportion to this extension. The problem is noted to be complex, potentially beyond the typical grade 11 syllabus, as it involves differential calculus.
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Homework Statement



Find the forces of the three strings of this image.

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Homework Equations



Using gravitational constant to find force of the mass.
Using algebra to find the forces of the three strings.

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to create two equations, one for the x-axis and another for the y-axis. However, in the x-axis, the two strings of 25° cancel themselves. Do you think there is a missing data? This blocks me from using substitution to find the other forces. How would you proceed?
 
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You have three supports but only two equations of statics. Therefore, the problem is statically indeterminate. In order to solve this system, additional equations must be introduced.
 
If the strings are completely inextensible then there is no way to solve this. You can obtain consistent solutions by setting e.g. the tension in the centre string to 0, or by setting the other two to 0.
In the real world, all strings are at least a little extensible. If you consider a small extension to the centre string, you can calculate the extensions to the other two. Taking the tensions to be in proportion to these, a solution can be found.
 
Actually, I have never seen string extensibility in grade 11. Your reply interests me. Could you explain how we could proceed to find the three forces? How do we find how much they extend? Very bizarrely, the teacher said this question was in last year's exam...
 
It requires a little differential calculus, so I'm guessing that also puts it beyond your syllabus.
Let the two angled strings be attached w from the centre. If the centre string has length x, the other two have length √(x2+w2). If the centre string is stretched by amount δx the other two are each stretched √((x+δx)2+w2) - √(x2+w2) ≈ xδx/√(x2+w2) = δx sec(θ). So the tension in the side strings is sec(θ) times that in the centre string. That's enough extra info to solve it.
 
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