Equivalence of Canonical and Microcanonical Ensembles in Thermodynamic Limit

In summary, the discussion is about the equivalence of the canonical and microcanonical ensembles in predicting thermodynamic behavior. It is mentioned that a thermodynamic limit must exist and there may be other conditions on the system. A suggestion is made to refer to Mehran Kardar's textbook "Statistical Physics of Particles" and specifically Lectures 12, 13, and 14 for a thorough explanation of how the ensembles lead to the same predictions. A page number is requested for reference and the response is that the entire book is available online.
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In a lot of practical situations it is simply assumed the canonical and microcanonical ensemble give the same predictions, and that's fine, but I'm interested in a more exact statement of when they are indeed equivalent (in the thermodynamic limit). First of all, a thermodynamic limit must exist. But I'm sure there most be other conditions on the system. Can anybody give some suggestions, arguments or references?
 
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Mehran Kardar's textbook "Statistical Physics of Particles" has a very in-depth demonstration of how each of the ensembles leads to the same predictions. The entire book is basically contained in his "Lecture Notes" which are posted online.
http://web.mit.edu/8.333/www/lectures/index.html
You'll find the answer in Lectures 12, 13, and 14. Granted, this is a graduate-level text that most of my fellow graduates found unintelligible, but it does answer your question.
 
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Thank you, I will check it out. Can you give a page number?
 

1. What is the difference between the canonical and microcanonical ensembles?

The canonical ensemble is used to describe a system in equilibrium with a heat reservoir, while the microcanonical ensemble describes a system that is isolated and has a fixed energy.

2. What is the thermodynamic limit?

The thermodynamic limit refers to the theoretical concept of considering a system with an infinite number of particles or degrees of freedom. This allows for more accurate predictions of the system's behavior and properties.

3. How does the equivalence of canonical and microcanonical ensembles in the thermodynamic limit affect our understanding of thermodynamics?

The equivalence of these ensembles in the thermodynamic limit provides a bridge between the microscopic and macroscopic descriptions of a system, allowing for a deeper understanding of thermodynamic principles and their applications.

4. What is the role of entropy in the equivalence of canonical and microcanonical ensembles?

Entropy is a key factor in the equivalence of these ensembles, as it is the measure of the system's disorder or randomness. In the thermodynamic limit, the entropy of a system in the canonical and microcanonical ensembles is equivalent, allowing for the transition between the two ensembles.

5. How does the equivalence of canonical and microcanonical ensembles impact statistical mechanics?

The equivalence of these ensembles in the thermodynamic limit allows for a more unified and consistent approach to statistical mechanics. It also allows for the use of different ensembles to describe a system, depending on which is more convenient for the specific problem at hand.

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