Equivalent resistance with possible short circuit

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The discussion focuses on calculating the current flowing through a voltage source with given values of Vs = 3.9 V and R = 8.3 kOhm. The initial approach involved simplifying three resistors in parallel to find an equivalent resistance of 3.12 kOhm, while neglecting other resistors in the circuit. Feedback emphasized the importance of considering all components and accurately identifying nodes in the circuit diagram. A revised diagram helped clarify the connections, leading to a better understanding of the circuit dynamics. Ultimately, the analysis highlighted the necessity of careful diagramming and consideration of all resistors to solve for current accurately.
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Homework Statement



Find the current flowing through the voltage source in mA. Assume Vs = 3.9 V and R = 8.3 kohm. Round off your answer to two decimal points.

Homework Equations



1/R(equivalent) = 1/R1 + 1/R2 + ...

I=V/R

Kirchoff's voltage law

The Attempt at a Solution



I considered the 3 resistors in the upper left of diagram (10k, R=8.3k, 10k) to be in parallel and calculated their equivalent resistance to be 3.12 kOhms. I basically ignored the two 10kOhm resistors in the bottom right because a) they didn't seem to be in series, or parallel so I didn't know what to do with them and b) it seemed that the current would avoid them by taking the path of least resistance after going through the 3 resistors in parallel in the upper left. I then wrote the KVL equation: Vs - I(3.12*10^3) = 0 and solved for I determining the current to be 1.25mA.
 

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Uh, dude, you REALLY need to rethink that analysis. How can the current through R possibly NOT flow through on or both of the resistors on the right & bottom?
 
Try redrawing the diagram, this time repositioning enough of the elements so that you can draw it so there are no sloping lines. I.e., arrange it so all elements and connecting wires are either vertical or horizontal, and with no ugly cross-overs.

You may need to make a few attempts before you manage it. Just keep trying.
 
Wow. Thank you both very much for the help. My first big problem was that I assumed there was a node where the wires crossed. For sure, I'll pay much closer attention to nodes from now on. Also, redrawing the diagram with the R=8.3k resistor going around the other circuit elements made the diagram much easier to understand.

Thanks again!
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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