Evaluate double integral using transformations

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a double integral using transformations in the context of calculus. The original poster attempts to transform the variables and find the limits of integration for a specific region defined by a triangle in the xy-plane.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the transformation of variables and the implications of mapping a triangular region to a quadrilateral. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the transformation and the limits of integration. There are attempts to clarify the symmetry of the region and the evaluation of the integral.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the evaluation of the integral and the limits of integration. There is acknowledgment of potential errors in the original approach, and a few participants express agreement with the revised calculations. Multiple interpretations of the transformation and limits are being explored.

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There are discussions about the symmetry of the region and the mapping of points during the variable transformation. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their results, indicating a need for further clarification on the setup and assumptions.

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The attempt at a solution
I plotted the graph x-y:
http://s2.ipicture.ru/uploads/20120107/ja3V9aSV.jpg

[itex]y=\frac{1}{2}(u+v)[/itex] and [itex]x=\frac{1}{2}(u-v)[/itex]

So, after finding the Jacobian, the double integral becomes: [itex]\int\int \frac{1}{1+u^2}\,.\frac{1}{2}dvdu[/itex]

Now, to find the transformed limits, i plot another graph u-v:
http://s2.ipicture.ru/uploads/20120107/RrA8UKQ1.jpg

From the graph above, the shaded area is what i need to find. Since the area is symmetrical about the v-axis, i decided to evaluate the lower half of the right-hand side and then multiply by 4.

So, the limits for the lower right-half (meaning the section found under the line v=a) is:
For u fixed, v varies from v=u to v=a
u varies from u=0 to u=a

The double integral becomes:
[tex]4\int^a_0 \int^a_u \frac{1}{1+u^2}\,.dvdu[/tex]
The answer to that integral above is ultimately incorrect, hence why i have no idea where i messed up. The answer i got is:
[tex]2a\arctan a - ln(1+a^2)[/tex]
 
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How can your variable transformation turn a triangle into a quadrilateral? Which point in the triangle is going to map to (2a,0)?
 
OK, i have fixed the graph of u-v:
http://s2.ipicture.ru/uploads/20120108/cvc1aJm9.jpg

Since the area of region is symmetrical about the u-axis, taking limits of upper triangular section and then multiply by 2.

The limits:
For u fixed, v varies from v=0 to v=u
u varies from u=0 to u=a

[tex]2\int^a_0 \int^u_0 \frac{1}{1+u^2}\,.\frac{1}{2}.dvdu[/tex]

The answer is [itex]\frac{1}{2}ln (1+a^2)[/itex]
 
What did you got for the first integral with respect to v? Take care, the integrand does not depend on v!

ehild
 
For the first integral w.r.t.v. i got (after putting in the limits for v and then u):
[tex]\frac{u}{1+u^2}\,.\frac{1}{2}du=\frac{1}{2}ln (1+a^2)[/tex]
 
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sharks said:
For the first integral w.r.t.v. i got (after putting in the limits for v and then u):
[tex]\frac{u}{1+u^2}\,.\frac{1}{2}du=\frac{1}{2}ln (1+a^2)[/tex]

Your answer look ok to me.
 

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