Evaluating a recursive function

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The discussion centers around evaluating the recursive function defined as f_n(x) = f_0(f_{n-1}(x)), starting with f_0(x) = 1/(1-x). A pattern emerges in the functions f_1, f_2, and f_3, leading to the conjecture that these functions repeat every three iterations. To evaluate f_{2014}(2014), the key is to reduce 2014 modulo 3 to determine its equivalent function. The conversation suggests using either subtraction or the digit sum method to find the remainder when 2014 is divided by 3, which ultimately helps identify the appropriate function. This approach will lead to the solution for f_{2014}(2014).
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Hello everyone,

Here is the problem:

Let ##\displaystyle f_0() = \frac{1}{1-x}##, and ##f_n(x) = f_0(f_{n-1}(x))##, where ##n \in \mathbb{N}##. Evaluate ##f_{2014}(2014)##.

I first sought after a pattern, and then tried to make a conjecture. Here is what I found:

##\displaystyle f_1(x) = f_0(f_(x)) = \frac{1}{1 - \frac{1}{x-1}} = \frac{1-x}{-x} = \frac{(f_0(x))^{-1}}{-x}##

##\displaystyle f_2(x) = f_0(f_1(x)) = \frac{1}{1- \left(\frac{(f_0(x))^{-1}}{-x} \right)} = \frac{x}{x + (f_0(x))^{-1}}##

##\displaystyle f_3(x) = f_0(f_2(x)) = \frac{1}{1 - \left(\frac{x}{x + (f_0(x))^{-1}} \right)} = \frac{ x + (f_0(x))^{-1} }{x + (f_0(x))^{-1} - x } = \frac{x + (f_0(x))^{-1} }{(f_0(x))^{-1}}##

##\displaystyle f_4(x) = f_0(f_3(x)) = \frac{1}{1 - \left(\frac{x + (f_0(x))^{-1} }{(f_0(x))^{-1} } \right)} = \frac{(f_0(x))^{-1}}{-x} = f_1(x)##

##f_5(x) = f_2(x)##

##f_6(x) = f_3(x)##

So, after the functions ##f_1,~f_2,~f_3##, a pattern begins to emerge, and therefore these three functions are the base functions. The conjecture is that, if you begin with the ##j##-th function, the function will not repeat until the ##(j+3)##-th function.

So, I need to figure out how to "reduce" the number 2014 to either 1,2, or 3 by repeatedly subtracting 3 from 2014 until I arrive at 1,2, or 3. Equivalently, I could repeatedly add 3 to 1,2, and 3, until I reached 2014, and then I would know which function ##f_{2014}## is equivalent to. But I am having difficulty figuring out exactly how to do this without actually doing the addition or subtraction. I know that multiplication of integers is defined in terms of addition; it is repeated addition. So, asking how many times I can add 3 to a number until I get 2014 is related to multiplication, which in turn is related to division, because division is defined in terms of multiplication.

I hope you can help!
 
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Try reducing your f_1(x) a bit more. In particular, reduce that f_0(x) term to something more basic. Do the same for f_2(x) and then f_3(x). Done right, you should only operations involving numbers and the letter x in the expressions for your f_n(x).

You should see one more pattern emerge in addition to what you've already seen. This should help you find the answer to your question.
 
Bashyboy said:
Hello everyone,

Here is the problem:

Let ##\displaystyle f_0() = \frac{1}{1-x}##, and ##f_n(x) = f_0(f_{n-1}(x))##, where ##n \in \mathbb{N}##. Evaluate ##f_{2014}(2014)##.

I first sought after a pattern, and then tried to make a conjecture. Here is what I found:

##\displaystyle f_1(x) = f_0(f_(x)) = \frac{1}{1 - \frac{1}{x-1}} = \frac{1-x}{-x} = \frac{(f_0(x))^{-1}}{-x}##

##\displaystyle f_2(x) = f_0(f_1(x)) = \frac{1}{1- \left(\frac{(f_0(x))^{-1}}{-x} \right)} = \frac{x}{x + (f_0(x))^{-1}}##

##\displaystyle f_3(x) = f_0(f_2(x)) = \frac{1}{1 - \left(\frac{x}{x + (f_0(x))^{-1}} \right)} = \frac{ x + (f_0(x))^{-1} }{x + (f_0(x))^{-1} - x } = \frac{x + (f_0(x))^{-1} }{(f_0(x))^{-1}}##

##\displaystyle f_4(x) = f_0(f_3(x)) = \frac{1}{1 - \left(\frac{x + (f_0(x))^{-1} }{(f_0(x))^{-1} } \right)} = \frac{(f_0(x))^{-1}}{-x} = f_1(x)##

##f_5(x) = f_2(x)##

##f_6(x) = f_3(x)##

So, after the functions ##f_1,~f_2,~f_3##, a pattern begins to emerge, and therefore these three functions are the base functions. The conjecture is that, if you begin with the ##j##-th function, the function will not repeat until the ##(j+3)##-th function.

So, I need to figure out how to "reduce" the number 2014 to either 1,2, or 3 by repeatedly subtracting 3 from 2014 until I arrive at 1,2, or 3. Equivalently, I could repeatedly add 3 to 1,2, and 3, until I reached 2014, and then I would know which function ##f_{2014}## is equivalent to. But I am having difficulty figuring out exactly how to do this without actually doing the addition or subtraction. I know that multiplication of integers is defined in terms of addition; it is repeated addition. So, asking how many times I can add 3 to a number until I get 2014 is related to multiplication, which in turn is related to division, because division is defined in terms of multiplication.

I hope you can help!

You can figure it out for yourself: when you subtract 3 once you get 2014 - 3. Two subtractions give you 2014 - 2*3. So, when perform n subtractions of 3 you get 2014 - 3*n. You want this to give you either 0, 1 or 2.
 
Bashyboy said:
So, I need to figure out how to "reduce" the number 2014 to either 1,2, or 3 by repeatedly subtracting 3 from 2014 until I arrive at 1,2, or 3.

There are many ways to do this. Firstly you can calculate 2014/3 by long division to determine the remainder. Or you can use the trick that a number is divisible by 3 if its digits sum to a multiple of 3: 2 + 0 + 1 + 4 = 7, so 2 + 0 + 1 + 3 = 6...
 
I was hoping the OP could figure that out on his own.
 
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