Evaluating an integral involving a fraction

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the expression \(\int \left(\frac{x-a}{b-x}\right)^{c/d}dx\), where \(c < d\). Participants are exploring various substitution methods to simplify the integral.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to rewrite the integrand to simplify it but finds it unhelpful. Some participants suggest substitutions, including \(u=\frac{x-a}{b-x}\) and \(u=\frac{1}{b-x}\), leading to further transformations of the integral. Questions arise regarding the nature of the variable \(c\) and its role in the integral.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts at substitutions and expressing uncertainty about the next steps. There is no explicit consensus on a viable approach, but several lines of reasoning are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity introduced by the power \(c/d\) and the challenges in finding a suitable substitution. The nature of the variables \(a\), \(b\), and \(c\) is also clarified, with \(c\) identified as a generic variable.

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Homework Statement



I want to integrate:

[itex]\int (\frac{x-a}{b-x})^{c/d}dx[/itex]

Homework Equations



given:
c<d

The Attempt at a Solution



I have no idea which integration method to use. i tried to make the integrand look easier by rewriting it as:

[itex](1+\frac{b-a}{x-b})^{c/d}[/itex]

but this still doesn't help me.
any ideas will be very much appreciated. thank you.
 
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Have you tried the obvious one?
[tex] u=\frac{x-a}{b-x}[/tex]
 
after using the substitution:

[itex]u=\frac{x-a}{b-x}[/itex],

we find the derivative of u with respect to x so that:

[itex]du=\frac{b-a}{(b-x)^2}dx[/itex]
(using the quotient rule for differentiation),

then, substituting this into the original integral, we have:

[itex](b-a)\int\frac{u^{c/d+1}}{(u+1)^2}du[/itex]

and from here, i can't seem to think of another substitution.
any ideas?
(thank you in advance)
 
Is c supposed to represent the dummy constant when evaluating an indefinite integral, or is it just a generic variable here like a and b?
 
it is a generic variable like a and b.
 
Hmm, that ends up quite messy and not very helpful in the slightest (but you did it correctly), you did make another (very nice) observation that you integrand becomes:
[tex] \left(1+\frac{b-a}{b-x}\right)^{\frac{c}{d}}[/tex]
Now I would use the following substitution:
[tex] u=\frac{1}{b-x}[/tex]
 
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I tried this substitution u=1/(x-b),
so du=ln(x-b)dx

so, substituting this into the integral, we have:

[itex]\int\frac{(1+(b-a)u)^{c/d}}{-ln(u)}du[/itex]

and... also, i am stuck on what to chose for the next substitution.
 
That is not what you get, you integrated instead of differentiated, what is du?
 
my mistake.

du=-1/(x-b)^2 dx

so it should be:

[itex]\int\frac{(1+(b-a)u)^{c/d}}{u^2}du[/itex]
 
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Any thoughts now?
 
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i can't think of a further useful substitution, because we have the power of c/d.
 

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