Evaluating Definite Integrals: A Comparison and Explanation

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The discussion centers on evaluating the integral of the form ∫ e^(jz cos θ) cos(mθ) dθ over different intervals and using various substitutions. Two methods yield seemingly contradictory results, leading to confusion about the equality of the integrals. Participants clarify that while the integrands differ, the definite integrals can still be equal, emphasizing that different expressions can yield the same integral value. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the properties of integrals and the implications of variable substitutions in mathematical proofs. Ultimately, the discussion underscores the complexity of evaluating integrals involving exponential and trigonometric functions.
  • #31
yungman said:
I finally got the answer from Math Forum by Mathman

v=\pi-u\;\Rightarrow \;u=\pi-v,\;du=-dv

\int_{0}^{\pi}e^{jx\cos (u)}\cos(mu)du=-\int_{\pi}^{0}e^{jx\cos (\pi-v)}\cos(m\pi-mv)dv=\int_{0}^{\pi}e^{-jx\cos (v)}(-1)^m\cos(mv)dv

\theta=v\;\Rightarrow \;\int_{0}^{\pi}e^{-jx\cos (v)}(-1)^m\cos(mv)dv=\int_{0}^{\pi}e^{-jx\cos (\theta)}(-1)^m\cos(m\theta)d\theta

This is what I am looking for, a step by step proof that the two change of variable give the same exact answer. I know there got to be a way to proof identity.
Your first post in this thread proved the identity, actually. :wink:
 
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  • #32
Mandelbroth said:
Your first post in this thread proved the identity, actually. :wink:

Yeh, hind sight show I was close! But I am not that good in math, still have problem twisting the substitution around every which way to see it.

It's one thing working through the class and textbooks, it's another thing to get into this Bessel function derivation that really twisting the substitution every which way! I am just glad I finally got my derivations for the Bessel functions needed for me to go back to my antenna theory. This and electromagnetics really take the calculus, ODE, PDE and numerical analysis through the ringer. Been stuck for two week in here struggling through this and I am only on chapter 5 of the antenna theory! One thing for sure, I will be a lot better off in math after this...and I don't know whether I am laughing or crying at this point!
 
  • #33
In another thread in which you asked about how to derive a different representation of bessel function,I told there that you should show it by yourself.The point is that only even m will contribute,all integrals involving odd m will vanish.For that you can use the expansion of cos[xcos(theta)].The thread is some below in this forum.
 
  • #34
andrien said:
The thread is some below in this forum.

What do you mean?
 
  • #35
yungman said:
What do you mean?
I mean the thread is some below in this section of the forum.Also if you will use expansion of Sin(xCosθ),you will find that only odd m contribute and the extra minus sign outside Sin(xCosθ) will do the job.Just show it.
 
  • #36
andrien said:
I mean the thread is some below in this section of the forum.Also if you will use expansion of Sin(xCosθ),you will find that only odd m contribute and the extra minus sign outside Sin(xCosθ) will do the job.Just show it.

What do you mean by some below in this section?
 
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