Evaluating Improper Integral with limits and comparison theorem

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the improper integral of the function 1/(u^2 - 36) from 0 to 6 and determining its convergence. The participants are exploring the implications of the integral's limits and the behavior of the function near the singularity at u = 6.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss partial fraction decomposition as a method to evaluate the integral and question the differences in results obtained from different sources. There is also an exploration of the comparison theorem to assess convergence, with attempts to identify appropriate comparison functions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the comparison theorem and the need for a suitable function that diverges. There is an ongoing exploration of variable consistency and the implications of changing variables in the context of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the presence of a singularity at u = 6, which complicates the evaluation of the integral. There is also mention of the need for careful selection of comparison functions in the context of convergence testing.

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Homework Statement



evaluate the integral 1/(u^2 -36) from 0 to 6

does the integral converge?

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



integral 1/(u^2 -36)
integral 1/((u-6)(u+6))
Partial fraction decomposition
1/((u-6)(u+6)) = A/(u-6) + B/(u+6)
1=A(u+6) + B(u-6)
1=(A+B)u +(6A-6B)
A+B=0
A=-B
6A -6B=1
-12B=1
B=-1/12
A=1/12
1/12 int 1/(y-6) - 1/12 int 1/(y+6)
1/12 ln|y-6| - 1/12 ln|y+6|

I'm being told however by wolframalpha that it should be 1/12 ln|6-y| - 1/12 ln|y+6|
How did that happen?

I also wanted to try to use the comparison theorem to see if it converges or not.
I use the function g(x)=1/y^2 and i know that does not converge from 0 to 6, and since it is larger than f(x) then f(x) also does not converge. Did i go about that correctly?
 
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Painguy said:

Homework Statement



evaluate the integral 1/(u^2 -36) from 0 to 6

does the integral converge?

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



integral 1/(u^2 -36)
integral 1/((u-6)(u+6))
Partial fraction decomposition
1/((u-6)(u+6)) = A/(u-6) + B/(u+6)
1=A(u+6) + B(u-6)
1=(A+B)u +(6A-6B)
A+B=0
A=-B
6A -6B=1
-12B=1
B=-1/12
A=1/12
1/12 int 1/(y-6) - 1/12 int 1/(y+6)
1/12 ln|y-6| - 1/12 ln|y+6|

I'm being told however by wolframalpha that it should be 1/12 ln|6-y| - 1/12 ln|y+6|
How did that happen?

I also wanted to try to use the comparison theorem to see if it converges or not.
I use the function g(x)=1/y^2 and i know that does not converge from 0 to 6, and since it is larger than f(x) then f(x) also does not converge. Did i go about that correctly?

Try and stick with one variable. I don't know why you changed from u to y, but there is no difference between |6-y| and |y-6|. And to show it diverges by a comparision test you want a function that's less than 1/((y-6)(y+6)) that diverges. 1/y^2 isn't less than 1/((y-6)(y+6)).
 
Dick said:
Try and stick with one variable. I don't know why you changed from u to y, but there is no difference between |6-y| and |y-6|. And to show it diverges by a comparision test you want a function that's less than 1/((y-6)(y+6)) that diverges. 1/y^2 isn't less than 1/((y-6)(y+6)).

Hmm, not sure why I changed the variables myself. Oh right, I forgot I had to take the absolute value. It also seems that I have the entire comparison theorem backwards..that's not good haha. I can't think of any obvious functions less than 1/((y-6)(y+6)) that diverges. Could you point me toward the right direction of finding one? Thanks for your help I really appreciate it. :smile:
 
Painguy said:
Hmm, not sure why I changed the variables myself. Oh right, I forgot I had to take the absolute value. It also seems that I have the entire comparison theorem backwards..that's not good haha. I can't think of any obvious functions less than 1/((y-6)(y+6)) that diverges. Could you point me toward the right direction of finding one? Thanks for your help I really appreciate it. :smile:

Does 1/(y-6) diverge on [0,6]? The 1/(y+6) factor is between 1/12 and 1/6 on [0,6]. Use that info to make a comparison function.
 

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