Evaluating \int\int_{\sigma} F.n ds with Divergence Theorem

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The discussion revolves around the application of the divergence theorem to evaluate the surface integral of a vector field over a sphere. The vector field is defined as F(x,y,z)=2x i + 2y j + 2z k, and the surface is specified as the sphere defined by x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = 9.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the divergence of the vector field, which is determined to be 6. There is an exploration of using spherical coordinates for the triple integral, with some participants questioning the limits of integration for the angles involved.

Discussion Status

Participants have provided guidance on the limits of integration, with some confirming the correctness of the limits for the spherical coordinates. There is an ongoing calculation of the integral, with one participant expressing uncertainty about their result and seeking clarification.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the volume of the sphere and the need to multiply the result of the integral by the divergence value. Participants are also addressing potential errors in their calculations.

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Homework Statement



Use the divergence theorem to evaluate

\int\int_{\sigma}F . n ds
Where n is the outer unit normal to \sigma

we have
F(x,y,z)=2x i + 2y j +2z k and \sigma is the sphere x^2 + y^2 +z^2=9

Homework Equations



\int\int_{s}F . dA = \int\int\int_{R}divF dV


The Attempt at a Solution



I've worked out divF to be 6.

so I multyiply that by the Volume of a sphere 6\times\frac{4}{3}\pi r^3 = 216\pi


To calulate this using spherical co-ordinates.

I would need to calculate a triple integral

I know there's

\int\int\int p^2 sin(\theta) dp d\theta d\phi

I know that p = 3 but what would the values of \theta and \phi be

I guess the limits would be 0<p<30<\phi<2pi and 0<\theta<\phi

Any help greatly appreciated
 
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boneill3 said:

Homework Statement



Use the divergence theorem to evaluate

\int\int_{\sigma}F . n ds
Where n is the outer unit normal to \sigma

we have
F(x,y,z)=2x i + 2y j +2z k and \sigma is the sphere x^2 + y^2 +z^2=9

Homework Equations



\int\int_{s}F . dA = \int\int\int_{R}divF dV


The Attempt at a Solution



I've worked out divF to be 6.

so I multyiply that by the Volume of a sphere 6\times\frac{4}{3}\pi r^3 = 216\pi


To calulate this using spherical co-ordinates.

I would need to calculate a triple integral

I know there's

\int\int\int p^2 sin(\theta) dp d\theta d\phi

I know that p = 3 but what would the values of \theta and \phi be

I guess the limits would be 0<p<30<\phi<2pi and 0<\theta<\phi
No. Your limits on \rho and \phi are correct but \theta goes from 0 to \pi.

Any help greatly appreciated
 
Your limits are correct (assuming of course theta runs from 0 to pi, rather than phi).

All you need to so now is explicitly compute the integral, which is straightforward.
 
When I calculate the integral I'm getting 36\pi
I'm not sure where I'm going wrong.

So I compute.


\int_{0}^{2\pi}\int_{0}^{\pi}\int_{0}^{3} p^2 sin(\theta) dp d\theta d\phi

=\int_{0}^{2\pi}\int_{0}^{\pi}\left[\frac{ p^3 sin(\theta)}{3} \right]_{0}^{3} d\theta d\phi

=\int_{0}^{2\pi}\int_{0}^{\pi}9sin(\theta) d\theta d\phi



=\int_{0}^{2\pi}\left[-9cos(\theta) \right]_{0}^{\pi} d\phi

=\int_{0}^{2\pi}18 d\phi

=\left[18\phi\right]_{0}^{2\pi

=36\pi

regards
 
boneill3 said:
When I calculate the integral I'm getting 36\pi
I'm not sure where I'm going wrong.

So I compute.


\int_{0}^{2\pi}\int_{0}^{\pi}\int_{0}^{3} p^2 sin(\theta) dp d\theta d\phi

=\int_{0}^{2\pi}\int_{0}^{\pi}\left[\frac{ p^3 sin(\theta)}{3} \right]_{0}^{3} d\theta d\phi

=\int_{0}^{2\pi}\int_{0}^{\pi}9sin(\theta) d\theta d\phi



=\int_{0}^{2\pi}\left[-9cos(\theta) \right]_{0}^{\pi} d\phi

=\int_{0}^{2\pi}18 d\phi

=\left[18\phi\right]_{0}^{2\pi

=36\pi

regards
Yes, 36\pi is the volume of that sphere. Now multiply by 6: 6(36\pi)= 216\pi.
 
Thanks for your help
 

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