Examining Probability and Isolated Systems in Physical Configurations

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Ascribing probability to a physical configuration involves assumptions about the observer's role, the system's isolation, its comprehensiveness, and the reproducibility of measurements. The discussion highlights the complexities of applying physics, particularly in quantum mechanics, thermodynamics, and general relativity. It emphasizes that violations in these assumptions can arise from various combinations of the factors discussed. The conversation also touches on the philosophical implications of randomness in physics, questioning the nature of determinism. Ultimately, the interplay between these concepts raises significant questions about the foundations of physical theories.
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When we ascribe a probability to a physical configuration, are we not arbitrarily assuming

1. That the system excludes the observer,

2. How isolated the system is,

3. How comprehensive the system actually is,

4. The reproducibility of measurement?
 
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Are you talking about quantum mechanics?

Pete
 
E. g., quantum mechanics, thermodynamics, and general relativity - however you would apply physics ultimately to define an experiment.
 
1. Or, that we exclude QM's interpretation...:wink:

2. Yes.

3. Always.

4. A violation here can exist either due to point
num. 3 or 3 and 2 combined or - if you do not exclude
QM's interpretation, then - due to 1 too.

"Does dice play God ?"

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