Experimenting with a Pendulum: Damping & Plotting Graphs

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The discussion centers around an experiment involving a pendulum, specifically focusing on the concept of damping and the mathematical modeling of its motion through differential equations. Participants are exploring how to plot graphs based on their findings and how to determine the damping coefficient from measured amplitudes.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their experiment with a pendulum and expresses interest in understanding damping, mentioning they have derived a second-order differential equation.
  • Another participant provides a detailed explanation of the differential equation related to the pendulum's motion, including the characteristic equation and potential solutions.
  • A participant seeks clarification on whether the provided solutions allow for plotting a curve or solving for the damping coefficient.
  • Another participant questions the meaning of the expression eat(D1cos(bt)+ D2sin(bt)), asking if it equals zero.

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The discussion includes multiple viewpoints regarding the mathematical treatment of the pendulum's motion and the implications for plotting graphs and determining coefficients. There is no consensus on how to proceed with the plotting or the interpretation of the mathematical expressions.

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Participants have not provided specific initial conditions necessary for determining constants in the solutions, and there may be assumptions regarding the definitions of terms used in the equations that remain unaddressed.

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This discussion may be useful for students and researchers interested in experimental physics, particularly those exploring the dynamics of oscillatory systems and mathematical modeling of physical phenomena.

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I am doing an experiment on the pendulum, and i wanted to do something on the damping, i understand a little as i have done some reading on it, the picture attached show the working i have done, i have reached a second order DE and i know little about this. So my question is, can you plot a graph? and how can you find out the damping co efficent, i have some results i have measured the amplitude every other half oscilation.
 

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Okay, you have mx"+ (k/m)x'+ nx= 0. That's a linear homogeneous differential equation with constant coefficients, about the simplest possible equation. If you "try" a solution of the form x= ert, you arrive at the characteristic equation:
mr2+ (k/m)r+ n= 0. That is a quadratic equation and can be solved by the quadratic equation, giving r= a+bi and a- bi which means that the solutions to the differential equation are of the form C1e(a+ bi)t+ C2e(a-bi)t which can in turn be written eat(D1cos(bt)+ D2sin(bt)). You must have some initial conditions to determine D1 and D2.
 
ok so i get that, abit, but does that allow me to plot a curve? or can i solve the equation for k?
 
also eat(D1cos(bt)+ D2sin(bt)) what is that equal to? zero? Thanks for all your help
 

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