Explore the Hypothetical: What Happens to a Spinning Top with No Forces?

In summary, the Earth's precession is caused by the combined gravitational pulls of the Sun and Moon, similar to how a spinning top wobbles due to external forces. In a system where there are no external forces acting upon it, a spinning top would continue to spin without precession, unless it is an unstable or non-rigid shape. However, this would not violate the conservation of angular momentum.
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A question on precession
I was just reading up about the Earth's three motions, and it was written that the 'wobbling motion' (precession) exhibited by the Earth, could be compared to that of a spinning top. Intuitively, I guessed that a spinning top wobbles because of the Earth's gravity, and I found out that the Earth's precession is a combined effect of the Sun's and Moon's gravitational pulls.
(Precession of the Earth's Axis - Home Cornell Astronomy)So my question is,
what would happen to a spinning top in a system where there are no forces acting upon it (apart from the initial force that set it rotating, of course)
Would it wobble, or would it just, stop?
 
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JackFyre said:
what would happen to a spinning top in a system where there are no forces acting upon it (apart from the initial force that set it rotating, of course)
Would it wobble, or would it just, stop?
Depends on what kind of wobble you mean. The torque induced precession would stop. But there is also a torque free precession (also called nutation).

Also note that not all axes of rotation are stable:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennis_racket_theorem
 
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JackFyre said:
Intuitively, I guessed that a spinning top wobbles because of the Earth's gravity, and I found out that the Earth's precession is a combined effect of the Sun's and Moon's gravitational pulls.
A top precesses because there is a torque on it perpendicular to its axis of spin. The force of the surface upon which it rests is countered by gravitational pull on its center of mass which is not over the point of contact.

A planet precesses its axis of spin due to similar torque exerted by tidal forces from the sun and moon on the oblate shape of the planet which exert a torque attempting to align the spin with said external masses.

what would happen to a spinning top in a system where there are no forces acting upon it (apart from the initial force that set it rotating, of course)
Would it wobble, or would it just, stop?
It certainly wouldn't stop as that would violate conservation of angular momentum.
Most rigid shapes and stable non-rigid shapes (Earth) would just continue to spin without precession. But look at the link for the Tennis racket theorem in the prior post which illustrates the exceptions to this. In no instance is angular momentum not conserved in the absence of an external torque.
 
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1. What is a spinning top?

A spinning top is a toy that is typically made of wood or plastic and has a pointed end that is placed on a flat surface. When spun, the top rotates on its axis and remains balanced due to its angular momentum.

2. What are forces?

Forces refer to any interaction that causes an object to accelerate or change its motion. In the context of a spinning top, forces can include gravity, friction, and air resistance.

3. What happens to a spinning top with no forces?

If a spinning top has no forces acting upon it, it will continue to spin indefinitely due to its conservation of angular momentum. This means that the top will maintain its rotational speed and direction unless acted upon by an external force.

4. Can a spinning top ever have no forces acting upon it?

In theory, yes. If the spinning top is in a vacuum with no air resistance and placed on a perfectly smooth surface with no friction, it could continue to spin with no external forces acting upon it. However, in reality, it is nearly impossible to achieve these conditions.

5. How does the shape of a spinning top affect its behavior?

The shape of a spinning top can affect its behavior in several ways. A top with a larger surface area at its base will have more stability and be less likely to tip over. Additionally, a top with a pointed tip will have less friction and be able to spin for longer periods of time. The weight distribution of the top can also impact its balance and stability while spinning.

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