Exploring the Limit of L: 3x^2 + 4x vs. 3x^2 - 2x

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The problem involves evaluating the limit as x approaches infinity for the expression L = lim x-> infinity (√(3x² + 4x) - √(3x² - 2x)). The subject area pertains to calculus, specifically limits and the manipulation of expressions involving square roots.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss various approaches to simplify the limit expression, including attempts to eliminate square roots and the use of L'Hôpital's rule. Some question the validity of initial steps taken, while others suggest alternative methods for simplification.

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The discussion has seen multiple interpretations and approaches. Some participants have provided guidance on how to manipulate the expression correctly, while others express uncertainty about the necessity of certain methods. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach, but productive suggestions have been made.

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Participants are navigating through the complexities of limits involving square roots and are considering the implications of their algebraic manipulations. There is a noted concern about the initial steps taken and the potential pitfalls of applying certain rules incorrectly.

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Homework Statement



L = lim x-> infinity ([tex]\sqrt{3x^{2}+4x}[/tex] - [tex]\sqrt{3x^{2}-2x}[/tex]

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I first multiplied the whole equation by [tex]\sqrt{1}[/tex] to get rid of the square root.
Thus I got (3x^2 + 4x - (3x^2 - 2x)). With this, I divided the terms by x to get ultimately 4 + 2 = 6, but I don't think this answer is right because I didn't really substitute x anywhere. It just turned out to be some random algebra at the end.

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Your first step is incorrect.
You can't just square everything to get rid of the square roots.
(a + b)^2 does not equal to a^2 + b^2.
 
To simplify something like sqrt(A)-sqrt(B) multiply by (sqrt(A)+sqrt(B))/(sqrt(A)+sqrt(B)) i.e. '1' to get (A-B)/(sqrt(A)+sqrt(B)). You seem to be losing the denominator.
 
But doing that doesn't really help me because now I have square roots on the denominator.
 
Trying some factoring out, I got

6x/(x sqrt(3 + 1/4x) + x sqrt(3 + 1/2x))

and got stuck
 
Ah ha, I think I got it now.

Using l'hopital's rule I think? dividing by x, and therefore getting 6/2sqrt(3) as x heads to infinity in 1/4x and 1/2x and thus becoming 0 there.

Thanks to Dick and others who helped.

6/2sqrt(3)
 
Yup that's the correct answer. Or in simpler terms its sqrt(3). I don't think l'hospital's rule should be used here.
 
It's certainly not neccesary to use L'Hopital's rule.

JFonseka, do exactly what you were told to do initially: multiply [itex]\sqrt{3x^2+ 4x}- \sqrt{3x^2- 2x}[/itex] by
[tex]\frac{\sqrt{3x^2+ 4x}+ \sqrt{3x^2- 2x}}{\sqrt{3x^2+ 4x}+ \sqrt{3x^2- 2x}}[/tex]
to get
[tex]\frac{3x^2+ 4x- 3x^2+ 2x}{\sqrt{3x^2+ 4x}+ \sqrt{3x^2- 2x}}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{6x}{\sqrt{3x^2+ 4x}+ \sqrt{3x^2- 2x}}[/tex]

Yes, you now have square roots in the denominator but they are added so the "[itex]\infty- \infty[/itex]" problem that you had initially doesn't occur here. Since
Do the "standard" method when dealing with limits at infinity: divide both numerator and denominator by the highest power of x- here just x itself. Of course, the "x" you divide by in the denominator become "x2" in the square root.
Doing that you have:
[tex]\frac{6}{\sqrt{3+ 4/x}+ \sqrt{3- 2/x}}[/tex]

Now, as x goes to infinity, those fractions with x in the denominator go to 0. The limit is:
[tex]\frac{6}{2\sqrt{3}}= \frac{3}{\sqrt{3}}= \sqrt{3}[/tex]
 

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