Exponential rule on y = (1+x)^(1/x)

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The discussion revolves around the differentiation of the function f(x) = (1+x)^(1/x)e^x, specifically addressing the application of the extended exponential rule in this context. Participants are exploring the implications of using this rule on expressions that do not conform to standard forms.

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  • The original poster attempts to clarify the limitations of the extended exponential rule when applied to (1+x)^(1/x) and expresses concern over potential incorrect outcomes. Other participants suggest alternative approaches, such as rewriting the expression using logarithmic differentiation or exponential forms to facilitate differentiation.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and alternative methods for approaching the problem. There is an acknowledgment of different perspectives on handling the expression, and some participants express appreciation for the new approaches presented.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of differentiating functions that involve non-standard forms, and there is a focus on ensuring clarity in the application of differentiation rules. The original poster's concerns about the applicability of the extended exponential rule are central to the discussion.

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Homework Statement

I am of the conclusion that, under any circumstance, the extended exponential rule can not be applied to (1+x)^{1/x}.

Thus, there is no way for the extended exponential rule to arise when taking the derivative of:

f(x) = (1+x)^{\frac{1}{x}}e^{x}

For instance, if my first step for finding the derivative of this function was to apply the product rule, i'd get:

f'x = ((1+x)^{\frac{1}{x}})'(e^{x}) + ((1+x)^{\frac{1}{x}})(e^{x})'

And in the next step, if I were to take the derivatives by first applying the exponential rule to (1+x)^{1/x},

I would get an incorrect outcome because while I could apply the exponential rule to something like b^x, I would not be able to apply exponential rule to something like (b+x)^x

Is this correct so far?
 
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If what you mean by the "exponential rule" is the rule for how to take the derivative of something like ax, then you're right that you can't use it for things like xx. It is however easy to rewrite the thing that you don't know how to deal with, as something that you do know how to deal with. For example,
$$x^x=e^{\log x^x}=e^{x\log x}.$$
 
LearninDaMath said:

Homework Statement



I am of the conclusion that, under any circumstance, the extended exponential rule can not be applied to (1+x)^{1/x}.

Thus, there is no way for the extended exponential rule to arise when taking the derivative of:

f(x) = (1+x)^{\frac{1}{x}}e^{x}

For instance, if my first step for finding the derivative of this function was to apply the product rule, i'd get:

f'x = ((1+x)^{\frac{1}{x}})'(e^{x}) + ((1+x)^{\frac{1}{x}})(e^{x})'

And in the next step, if I were to take the derivatives by first applying the exponential rule to (1+x)^{1/x},

I would get an incorrect outcome because while I could apply the exponential rule to something like b^x, I would not be able to apply exponential rule to something like (b+x)^x

Is this correct so far?
As Fredrik said, you can often change the way you an expression to make it easier to work with.

For the example you give, you can use logarithmic differentiation, or rewrite the expression as follows.
\displaystyle <br /> f(x)=\Large e^{\ln\left((1+x)^{1/x}\right) } e^x

\displaystyle =\Large e^{\left( \frac{\ \ln(1+x)\ }{x} +x\right)}
 
Fredrik & Sammy, thank you both very much. I did not see this problem in the way you presented it. Thank you for showing me this way to approach functions of the form x^{x}.
 

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