Expression for magnitude of magnetic force

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The discussion centers on deriving the expression for the magnetic force on a charged particle moving near a current-carrying wire. The key formula is F = q(v x B), but participants emphasize the need to express it in terms of scalar speed and magnetic field strength. A new variable, theta (θ), representing the angle between the velocity vector and the magnetic field vector, must be defined. The relationship between the magnetic field strength and distance from the wire is also mentioned, though it should not be used to express the force in terms of current. The final expression discussed is F = qvBsin(θ), with a reminder to define θ clearly.
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Homework Statement


A particle with charge q moves with velocity v near a long, straight wire which has a current I flowing through it which generates magnetic field B. Give an expression for the magnitude of the force on this particle in terms of q, v = | v | and the magnitude of the magnetic field strength B. Make sure you define any other variables that you introduce.

Homework Equations


F = q(v x B)

The Attempt at a Solution


Could it be as simple as just quoting F = q(v x B)? I feel as though I may be missing something as this would seem a little too straight forward.

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no, that writes it in terms of the velocity vector and the magnetic field vector.
They want you to write it in terms of the scalar speed and the magnetic field strength (scalar).
(hint: you WILL need to introduce a new variable that you'll need to define)
 
Thanks a lot for the reply!
Is it somehow related to the formula for magnetic field strength at a given distance from a wire: B= [PLAIN]http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/pimg170.gifi / 2pi r? I am struggling to see from my books what else could be relevant.
 
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they don't want your "Making B" equation ... that would write the Force in terms of I, not B.
what does that little "x" in your formula mean?
 
Ahh so you could take the dot product rather than the cross product of the vectors and theta would be the new variable?
 
multiplication of scalars is not really a "dot product", it is simply multiplication.
A "dot product" multiplies the parallel components of 2 vectors, yielding a scalar.
This "cross product" multiplies the 2 vectors' perpendicular components, yielding a 3rd (perp) vector.
 
This is what I got, would appreciate some input:

F = qvBsin(theta)
 
yes, good ... but since θ is a new variable, you need to define it (as they explicitly stated)
 
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