Expression for the gravitational potential Vgrav

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The discussion revolves around deriving an expression for the gravitational potential \( V_{\text{grav}} \) at a point along the x-axis due to two fixed particles of equal mass. The context is gravitational potential in a simplified system where other influences are negligible.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand how to derive the gravitational potential using existing equations, expressing uncertainty about the relevance of the equations provided. Some participants suggest focusing on the gravitational potential due to each mass and combining them.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the correct approach to derive the potential. Guidance has been offered regarding the summation of potentials from multiple masses, but there is no explicit consensus on the next steps or methods to be used.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the relevance of different equations and the need to focus solely on gravitational potential, while also questioning the starting point for the derivation.

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Homework Statement



In a system where other gravitational influences can be discounted, two particles of equall mass m, are fixed at positions x= 0 and x= x0 on the x-axis.

1) derive an expression for the gravitational potential Vgrav at a general position x on the x-axis.?



Homework Equations



The only equations i can seem to find are:

A) for a test mass m at a distance r from another mass M
Vgrav(r) = (1/m)Egrav = (1/m)(-GmM/r) = -GM/r

B) V(r) = Q/ 4pie e0 r
Where e0 is the permittivity of free space



The Attempt at a Solution



Well to derive an expression usually means i have to combine and rearrange two separate expressions, but i do not know where to begin, maybe i don't need either of these expressions? could somebody please help me to understand what is goin on here? and prehaps where to start looking?
 
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Equation A you have there is the gravitational potential. Equation B is the electrostatic potential so you won't need that. So you have two masses along the x-axis and you want to know the potential along the axis dues to those two masses. How do you think you should proceed from here?
 
Thankyou for relpying

I have actually sent my work now but i did not really do this one, so i would still like to go through it to see what i should have done.

So i do need equation A then? but not B. do i need to find another expression now then for the potential? I just didnt know where to begin.
 
When there is more than one mass involved you can sum the potentials.
 
you mean like, V = G m1 m2 / r? rather than V = Gm/r?
 
No. Work out the potential using equation A due to one mass, then the other and then add them together to find the potential due to both.
 

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