F(a+b)=f(a)*f(b) and f(a*b)=f(a+b)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the characteristics of a function defined by the equations f(a+b)=f(a)*f(b) and f(a*b)=f(a+b). Participants explore potential functions that satisfy these conditions, examining various mathematical properties and implications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about functions that meet the criteria f(a+b)=f(a)*f(b) and f(a*b)=f(a+b).
  • Another participant suggests that the function f(a)=1 satisfies both conditions, although they note it is not particularly interesting.
  • It is proposed that exponential functions satisfy the first equation while logarithmic functions satisfy the second, but a later reply clarifies that logarithmic functions do not meet the second condition as stated.
  • One participant argues that if f(a+b)=f(a*b), then f(a) must equal f(0) for any a, implying that the function is constant, though the specific constant cannot be determined from the second statement alone.
  • A combination of both statements leads to the conclusion that there are two potential solutions for the function: f(x)=1 and f(x)=0.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the functions that satisfy the given equations. While some suggest f(x)=1 as a solution, others point out the limitations of logarithmic functions and the implications of the conditions, indicating that no consensus exists on a single function that meets both criteria.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the exploration of these functions is limited by the assumptions made about the nature of f and the implications of the equations. The discussion does not resolve the uncertainty regarding the existence of a function that satisfies both conditions simultaneously.

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Does sombody know what function has these characteristics:

f(a+b)=f(a)*f(b) and

f(a*b)=f(a+b)
 
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<br /> f(a+b)=f(a\cdot b)=f(a)\cdot f(b)\\<br /> f(a)=f(a+0)=f(a)\cdot f(0)=f(a\cdot 0)=f(0)\Rightarrow f(0)=1\Rightarrow\fbox{f(a)=1}<br />
 


The first statement is satisfied by exponential functions, the second is satisfied by logarithmic functions. It seems like nothing can satisfy both.
 


Actually, the second statement is not satisfied by logarithmic functions. You are thinking of f(a*b)=f(a)+f(b), but here it is f(a*b)=f(a+b).
 


szynkasz said:
<br /> f(a+b)=f(a\cdot b)=f(a)\cdot f(b)\\<br /> f(a)=f(a+0)=f(a)\cdot f(0)=f(a\cdot 0)=f(0)\Rightarrow f(0)=1\Rightarrow\fbox{f(a)=1}<br />

f(x)=1 for all x satisfies all conditions. Not a very interesting function...
 


For one that satisfies only the second statement, if f(a+b)=f(a*b), then f(a+0)=f(a*0), so
f(a) is f(0) for any a, so the second statement alone assures us that this function is constant, but there is no way to know what constant with only the fact f(a+b)=f(a*b) .
Now combine your second statement with your first.
Combined with the fact f(a)*f(b)=f(a*b), since f(a)=f(b)=f(a*b)=c for some constant c, as shown by statement 2, c*c=c , there are two solutions for your function when both statements are included, f(x)=1 , and f(x)=0 .
 

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