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36-36x+11x^2-x^3 = 0

I know that the answer is (x-2)(-x^2+9x-18), but i dont know how he got to it.

Ive look through google but i cant find any information on quadratics of this type.

Thanks in advance

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36-36x+11x^2-x^3 = 0

I know that the answer is (x-2)(-x^2+9x-18), but i dont know how he got to it.

Ive look through google but i cant find any information on quadratics of this type.

Thanks in advance

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hhhm, im still not finding any decent material. I will continue this in the morning.

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Thanks

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In this case we have:

f(x) = 0

with

f(x) = x^3 - 11 x^2 + 36 x - 36

A rational zero of f thus has to be an integer that divides 36. They can thus be:

x= ±1, ±2, ±3, ±4, ±6, ±9, ±12, ±18, ±36

Since were too lazy to try out all these 18 candidates, we're going to use the following trick. Let's substitute for x some random integer r such that f(r) is some ugly number with only a few divisors. How will that help?

Consider the polynomial g(y) defined as:

g(y) = f(r+y)

We apply the Rational Roots theorem to g(y). We note that to do that you don't need to expand out f(r+y), all you need are the coefficients of y^3 and the constant term of f(1+y). The constant term is the value for y = 0, which is f(r) = ugly number with only a few divisors. The coefficient of y^3 is the same as the coefficient of x^3, so the rational roots of g(y) are those few divisors of the ugly number f(r)

Since g(y) = f(r+y), adding r to these candidates gives the possible rational roots for f.

E.g., we have that f(5) = -6. Tis means that the possible rational roots of g(y) = f(5+y) are:

y = ±1, ±2, ±3, ±6

The possible rational roots of f are thus:

x = 5+y = -1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 11

But the rational roots also have to be divisors of 36, therefore we can strike out any items in the list that are not divisors of 36, leaving us with:

x = -1, 2, 3, 4, 6,

If we try f(-1), we see that f(-1) = -84. If we then take r = -1 and play the same game as above, we see that the list of candidates is reduced to:

x = 2, 3, 6

These are in fact the three roots of f.

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What i am trying to do is but it into two brackets.

Sorry if i sound stupid, but im not seeing as too how this helps. X can be treated as any value when i put it into brackets, so why am i finding the roots? that was all way too complicated for me im afraid.

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See expanded form of polynomial.

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