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I hope it's okay that I made this thread...if it isn't, I'm very sorry, I thought it would be an interesting topic and that I had fleshed it out as best as possible.
Anyways, I just finished up an entry for my journal and decided to post it here:
I was doing an assignment for English in which I had to make up a list of ten personal vocabulary words from books, articles, etc. I've read and, in my search, I found the word "fatalism" [Found in Harry Potter and Philosophy, if Aristotle Ran Hogwarts. Yes, I read Harry Potter...shut up. ]. I looked it up and this is what I found:
fatalism: a doctrine that events are fixed in advance so that human beings are powerless to change them; also : a belief in or attitude determined by this doctrine
I also found http://www.molloy.edu/academic/philosophy/sophia/ancient_lit/happiness/fatalism1.htm" on it as well.
**If it is fated for you to recover from your illness, then you will recover whether you call a doctor or not.
**Likewise, if you are fated not to recover, you will not do so even if you call a doctor.
**So, calling a doctor makes no difference.
When thinking about fatalism I can't help but think about religion as those who believe in God say, "We have freewill." but I've also heard others say things happen for a reason, which implies our lives are planned out for us ahead of time, at least in a small way. Really, think about how people respond to a death. A child contracts cancer when he's seven and dies a few years later. A child dieing is always a terrible occurrance especially when it's from an illness... But, some of the families who go through this type of thing tend to look to God and say it was all a part of His plans. How is that if they believe we have freewill?
If that child died because God planned it that way, nothing in the world could have prevented it from happening. They could have done everything under the Sun and that kid still would have died... Does that mean fatalism does have a place in our lives? That it's half and half? Some things we can change and some things we can't? What I've read would imply that those who are against fatalism believe it's ridiculous but maybe it isn't...I don't know, it's a curious topic.
I thought this topic would be okay since I was planning on using the example Wikipedia gave to begin the discussion. What I've read would suggest those who argue against fatalism would probably agree with that example but I'm not so sure it's the argument ender... Let's say a doctor treated a cancer patient and that patient lived. I'm assuming medical tests would prove that that doctor was needed (And history would probably prove the same thing as people are living longer today than they did 100 years ago because of modern technology.)...so, instead of saying his ability to save lives proves fatalism is a crock, what if it proves he was a part of that patient's destiny to survive? Like I said, I don't really know what to think but I can't help but think about it.
Anyways, I just finished up an entry for my journal and decided to post it here:
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I was doing an assignment for English in which I had to make up a list of ten personal vocabulary words from books, articles, etc. I've read and, in my search, I found the word "fatalism" [Found in Harry Potter and Philosophy, if Aristotle Ran Hogwarts. Yes, I read Harry Potter...shut up. ]. I looked it up and this is what I found:
fatalism: a doctrine that events are fixed in advance so that human beings are powerless to change them; also : a belief in or attitude determined by this doctrine
I also found http://www.molloy.edu/academic/philosophy/sophia/ancient_lit/happiness/fatalism1.htm" on it as well.
**If it is fated for you to recover from your illness, then you will recover whether you call a doctor or not.
**Likewise, if you are fated not to recover, you will not do so even if you call a doctor.
**So, calling a doctor makes no difference.
When thinking about fatalism I can't help but think about religion as those who believe in God say, "We have freewill." but I've also heard others say things happen for a reason, which implies our lives are planned out for us ahead of time, at least in a small way. Really, think about how people respond to a death. A child contracts cancer when he's seven and dies a few years later. A child dieing is always a terrible occurrance especially when it's from an illness... But, some of the families who go through this type of thing tend to look to God and say it was all a part of His plans. How is that if they believe we have freewill?
If that child died because God planned it that way, nothing in the world could have prevented it from happening. They could have done everything under the Sun and that kid still would have died... Does that mean fatalism does have a place in our lives? That it's half and half? Some things we can change and some things we can't? What I've read would imply that those who are against fatalism believe it's ridiculous but maybe it isn't...I don't know, it's a curious topic.
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I thought this topic would be okay since I was planning on using the example Wikipedia gave to begin the discussion. What I've read would suggest those who argue against fatalism would probably agree with that example but I'm not so sure it's the argument ender... Let's say a doctor treated a cancer patient and that patient lived. I'm assuming medical tests would prove that that doctor was needed (And history would probably prove the same thing as people are living longer today than they did 100 years ago because of modern technology.)...so, instead of saying his ability to save lives proves fatalism is a crock, what if it proves he was a part of that patient's destiny to survive? Like I said, I don't really know what to think but I can't help but think about it.
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