Field Theory - Algebrais Extensions - Dummit and Foote Section 13.2

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The discussion centers around Proposition 11 and Corollary 7 from Dummit and Foote's Chapter 13 on Field Theory, specifically regarding the degree of an algebraic element \(\alpha\) over a field \(F\) and the structure of the field extension \(F(\alpha)\). Participants explore the implications of these propositions on the degree of the extension and the nature of the basis for \(F(\alpha)\).

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Peter questions whether the degree of the extension \([F(\alpha) : F]\) should be one less than the degree of the minimal polynomial \(m_{\alpha}(x)\), based on his interpretation of Corollary 7.
  • Peter later reflects that \(F(\alpha)\) can be viewed as a vector space with a basis consisting of \(1, \alpha, \alpha^2, \ldots, \alpha^{n-1}\), suggesting that the degree of the space would equal the degree of the minimal polynomial.
  • A participant confirms Peter's reflection, stating that the set \(\{1, \alpha, \ldots, \alpha^{n-1}\}\) spans \(F(\alpha)\) and discusses the linear independence of this set, linking it to the irreducibility of \(m_{\alpha}(x)\).
  • Another participant elaborates on the proof of linear independence and provides an example using \(\alpha = \sqrt{2}\) to illustrate the concepts discussed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no clear consensus on the initial question posed by Peter regarding the degree of the extension. However, there is agreement on the nature of the basis for \(F(\alpha)\) and its implications for the dimension of the vector space.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the implications of the minimal polynomial's degree and the structure of the field extension without resolving the initial confusion regarding the degree of \(\alpha\) over \(F\).

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I am trying to clarify my understanding of Proposition 11 of Dummit and Foote Ch13 Field Theory concerning the degree of \alpha over F.

Proposition 11 reads as follows:

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Proposition 11. Let \alpha be algebraic over the field F and let F(\alpha) be the field generated by \alpha over F.

Then F(\alpha) \cong F[x]/(m_{\alpha}(x))

so that in particular [F(\alpha) \ : \ F] = deg \ m_{\alpha}(x) = deg \ \alpha

i.e. the degree of \alpha over F is the degree of the extension it generates over F

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- However Corollary 7 (Dummit and Foote page 518) states the following: -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Corollary 7. Suppose in Theorem 6 that p(x) is of degree n. Then

F(\alpha) = \{ a_0 + a_1 {\alpha} + a_2 {\alpha}^2 + ... ... a_{n-1} {\alpha}^{n-1} \ | \ a_0, a_1, ... ... a_{n-1} \in F \} \subseteq K

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Given that F(\alpha) consists of polynomials of degree (n-1) should not the degree of [F(\alpha) \ : \ F] = deg \ m_{\alpha}(x) - 1 = deg \ \alpha -1 - that is the degree of \alpha over F be one less than the degree of the minimal polynomial? Can someone please clarify this situation for me

Peter

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I have just been reflecting about my own question above.

It is possible that F(\alpha) viewed as a vector space of deg (n-1) polynomials would have the following as a basis:

1, {\alpha}, {\alpha}^2, {\alpha}^3, ... ... {\alpha}^{n-1}

Then the degree of the space would be n which would equal the degree of the minimal polynomial involved.

If this thought is actually correct, could someone please confirm this as the case.

Peter
 
Peter said:
I have just been reflecting about my own question above.

It is possible that F(\alpha) viewed as a vector space of deg (n-1) polynomials would have the following as a basis:

1, {\alpha}, {\alpha}^2, {\alpha}^3, ... ... {\alpha}^{n-1}

Then the degree of the space would be n which would equal the degree of the minimal polynomial involved.

If this thought is actually correct, could someone please confirm this as the case.

Peter
Yes Peter, this is absolutely correct.
 
A basis of any vector space $V$ over $F$ is a subset that both spans $V$ and is linearly independent.

The fact that $\alpha$ satisfies a polynomial of degree $n$ is sufficient to establish that the set $\{1,\alpha,\dots,\alpha^{n-1}\}$ spans $F(\alpha)$ (equivalently, the canonical ring homomorphism $F[x] \to F(\alpha)$ is surjective, with kernel $m_{\alpha}(x)$).

So $\text{dim }_F(F(\alpha)) = [F(\alpha):F] \leq n$.

To establish linear independence we COULD employ the division algorithm to show that any polynomial in $F[x]$ has a UNIQUE remainder of degree $< n$ (or is the 0 polynomial) upon division by $m_{\alpha}(x)$, but I prefer the following:

Suppose we have:

$c_0 + c_1\alpha + \cdots + c_{n-1}\alpha^{n-1} = 0$

If ANY of the $c_j$ are non-zero, then $\alpha$ satisfies a polynomial of degree $< n$ (namely: $c_0 + c_1x + \cdots + c_{n-1}x^{n-1}$) in $F[x]$, contradicting the minimality of $m_{\alpha}(x)$ (which is necessarily irreducible). So it must be that ALL the $c_j = 0$, which proves linear independence.

The standard example used is typically $F = \Bbb Q$, with $\alpha = \sqrt{2}$. Now by Eisenstein, we have:

$x^2 - 2$ irreducible over $\Bbb Q$ (or we could use the fact that $\sqrt{2}$ is irrational, to show that $x^2 - 2$ has no roots in $\Bbb Q$, for if one root of a rational quadratic is rational, so is the other root).

It follows from the above that $\{1,\sqrt{2}\}$ is a basis for $\Bbb Q(\sqrt{2})$, which means that:

$\Bbb Q(\sqrt{2}) = \{x \in \Bbb R: x = a + b\sqrt{2}, a,b \in \Bbb Q\}$

The above can explicitly be shown to be a field, which contains $\Bbb Q$ (since it contains real numbers of the form $a + 0\sqrt{2}$) and $\sqrt{2}$ (as the real number $0 + 1\cdot \sqrt{2}$), moreover the closure axioms for a field ensure that $\Bbb Q(\sqrt{2})$ must contain all $\Bbb Q$-linear combinations of $1$ and $\sqrt{2}$, so this is indeed the smallest subfield of $\Bbb R$ containing both $\Bbb Q$ and $\sqrt{2}$.
 
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Deveno said:
A basis of any vector space $V$ over $F$ is a subset that both spans $V$ and is linearly independent.

The fact that $\alpha$ satisfies a polynomial of degree $n$ is sufficient to establish that the set $\{1,\alpha,\dots,\alpha^{n-1}\}$ spans $F(\alpha)$ (equivalently, the canonical ring homomorphism $F[x] \to F(\alpha)$ is surjective, with kernel $m_{\alpha}(x)$).

So $\text{dim }_F(F(\alpha)) = [F(\alpha):F] \leq n$.

To establish linear independence we COULD employ the division algorithm to show that any polynomial in $F[x]$ has a UNIQUE remainder of degree $< n$ (or is the 0 polynomial) upon division by $m_{\alpha}(x)$, but I prefer the following:

Suppose we have:

$c_0 + c_1\alpha + \cdots + c_{n-1}\alpha^{n-1} = 0$

If ANY of the $c_j$ are non-zero, then $\alpha$ satisfies a polynomial of degree $< n$ (namely: $c_0 + c_1x + \cdots + c_{n-1}x^{n-1}$) in $F[x]$, contradicting the minimality of $m_{\alpha}(x)$ (which is necessarily irreducible). So it must be that ALL the $c_j = 0$, which proves linear independence.

The standard example used is typically $F = \Bbb Q$, with $\alpha = \sqrt{2}$. Now by Eisenstein, we have:

$x^2 - 2$ irreducible over $\Bbb Q$ (or we could use the fact that $\sqrt{2}$ is irrational, to show that $x^2 - 2$ has no roots in $\Bbb Q$, for if one root of a rational quadratic is rational, so is the other root).

It follows from the above that $\{1,\sqrt{2}\}$ is a basis for $\Bbb Q(\sqrt{2})$, which means that:

$\Bbb Q(\sqrt{2}) = \{x \in \Bbb R: x = a + b\sqrt{2}, a,b \in \Bbb Q\}$

The above can explicitly be shown to be a field, which contains $\Bbb Q$ (since it contains real numbers of the form $a + 0\sqrt{2}$) and $\sqrt{2}$ (as the real number $0 + 1\cdot \sqrt{2}$), moreover the closure axioms for a field ensure that $\Bbb Q(\sqrt{2})$ must contain all $\Bbb Q$-linear combinations of $1$ and $\sqrt{2}$, so this is indeed the smallest subfield of $\Bbb R$ containing both $\Bbb Q$ and $\sqrt{2}$.
Thanks Deveno, the post is most helpful!

Peter
 

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