Filling petrol in the day or night

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The discussion revolves around the optimal time to fill petrol in a car, specifically whether it is better to do so during the day or at night. Participants explore the implications of temperature on fuel volume and density, as well as practical considerations regarding fuel measurement at gas stations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that filling petrol at night is advantageous due to cooler temperatures resulting in a greater volume of fuel.
  • Another participant argues that the temperature of gasoline in underground tanks does not change significantly between day and night, implying that the time of filling does not matter.
  • A third participant notes that energy content is related to fuel mass rather than volume, and highlights that in the US, fuel is sold by volume, which can be affected by temperature.
  • One participant questions how the volume of fuel is measured, suggesting that temperature might influence the measurement process, although this is uncertain.
  • Another participant agrees with the initial claim about temperature affecting fuel density but reiterates that the practical impact of temperature on fuel measurement is minimal.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of temperature when filling petrol, with some supporting the idea that cooler temperatures yield more fuel volume, while others contend that practical factors negate this advantage. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

There are uncertainties regarding the measurement methods used at fuel stations and how temperature affects these measurements. Additionally, the applicability of these arguments may vary by country due to different regulations on fuel measurement.

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hi,
my friend told me the other day that it makes more sense to fill petrol in your car in the night instead of in the day.
he says, that since its generally cooler in the night, the volume of petrol you get is more than what you would get if it were daytime instead, since its warmer. so u get slightly more fuel and a better mileage.

my take is this : whether day or night, the amount of petrol(moles) you fill in your car doesn't change. so it doesn't make any difference.

what makes more sense?
 
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In theory, your friend has the right idea, but in practice, it doesn't work that way. Most gas tanks are buried in the ground, and the gasoline is insulated well enough that it won't change temperature noticeably over the course of the day or night. Fill up your car whenever you want - it won't make any difference.
 
Winter, at least in the USA. Energy content is a proportional to fuel mass, not fuel volume. US fuel stations charge per unit volume, not per unit mass. Since fuel density decreases as temperature increases, it is better to buy fuel when temperature is lower. YMMV (literally!) in other countries. Some countries mandate a temperature-based adjustment to the measurement of the quantity of delivered fuel.
 
I'm not sure how the volume of the fuel is measured. If the device would always measure the correct volume, then it would make more sense to buy dense petrol. But maybe it is not so: maybe the volume flow is calculated from measured value of the speed of the petrol? Then higher temperature would also increase the cross-section of the tube, so you could get more volume for the same price.
 
Your friend is right. However, as Turbo has stated, the temperature of the fuel at the point being metered generally doesn't change much, so only a very small difference would be measurable (and probably not noticed).

Lojzek's theory is nice but not correct. Fuel pumps don't calculate flow from fluid speed; they measure the flow directly (volumetrically) using a flow meter.
 

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