Final electric potential difference in a circuit with two capacitors

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The discussion revolves around determining the final electric potential difference in a circuit containing two capacitors, each initially having different potential differences due to their respective capacities and charges.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore how charge transfer between capacitors affects their potential differences and question how to express the new potentials after charge movement.

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Participants are actively discussing the relationships between the initial and final potentials of the capacitors, with some guidance provided on forming equations based on the charge transfer. There is recognition of the need to address multiple unknowns in the problem.

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There are constraints regarding the initial conditions of the capacitors and the need to derive expressions for both capacitors to solve for the unknowns involved.

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Homework Statement
FIGURE ATTACHED BELOW
##C_{1}=2.00\mu F, q_{1}=6.00\mu C, C_{2}=8.00\mu F, q_{2}=12.0\mu C##
The circuit gets closed and charge flows until the two capacitors have the same electric potential difference ##V_{F}## across its terminals.
-calculate ##V_{F}##.
Relevant Equations
##q=CV##
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So, each capacitor must have a different potential difference, given by its capacity and charge... this would cause charge and current accordingly to flow in the circuit.
But how do I determine the final potential difference, which would of course be the same for both of them? I have tried writing down something, which I've found out to be unuseful to solve this problem.
 
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The capacitors start out with different potentials across them. What are they?

If some amount of charge, say ##\Delta q## moves from the higher potential capacitor to the lower potential one, what expressions can you write for those new potentials?
 
gneill said:
The capacitors start out with different potentials across them. What are they?

If some amount of charge, say ##\Delta q## moves from the higher potential capacitor to the lower potential one, what expressions can you write for those new potentials?
Ok, so, since ##V_{1}>V_{2}##, I'll have a ##\Delta q## transferring from 1 to 2, so the final potential ##V_{f}## is going to be: ##V_{1f}=V_{2f}=V_{f}=\frac{q_{1}-\Delta q}{C_{1}}##... that makes sense, right?
 
greg_rack said:
Ok, so, since ##V_{1}>V_{2}##, I'll have a ##\Delta q## transferring from 1 to 2, so the final potential ##V_{f}## is going to be: ##V_{1f}=V_{2f}=V_{f}=\frac{q_{1}-\Delta q}{C_{1}}##... that makes sense, right?
Yes. But you're left with two unknowns: ##V_f## and ##\Delta q##. Write the expressions for both of the capacitors and you'll have two equations in those two unknowns.
 
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gneill said:
Yes. But you're left with two unknowns: ##V_f## and ##\Delta q##. Write the expressions for both of the capacitors and you'll have two equations in those two unknowns.
Yep, sure!
Thank you very much :)
 

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