Final velocity of 2 spheres attracted by gravity and electrostatic charge

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The discussion revolves around calculating the final velocity of two insulating spheres with given masses and charges as they collide, starting from rest at a distance of 1 meter apart. The participant initially struggles with the problem, questioning whether it can be solved algebraically or requires calculus due to the increasing forces as the spheres approach each other. They explore the concepts of conservation of energy and angular momentum, ultimately concluding that gravitational effects are negligible compared to the electrostatic force. The final calculated velocity of the smaller sphere upon collision is 16.0 m/s, with a consensus that gravitational attraction between the spheres is insignificant for this problem. The discussion emphasizes the dominance of electrostatic forces in determining the spheres' motion.
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Homework Statement


Two insulating spheres having radii 0.22 cm
and 0.42 cm, masses 0.16 kg and 0.47 kg, and
charges −4 μC and 5 μC are released from
rest when their centers are separated by 1 m.
How fast is the smaller sphere moving when
they collide?
Answer in units of m/s.


Homework Equations


Fg=(G * m1 * m2)/r2
Fe= (k q1 * q2)/r
F=ma
Vf2=V02+ 2a * X

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm AP Physics and the class is supposed to be algebra and trig. based, but I don't see any way to solve this problem without calculus because the forces will constantly increase as the two spheres become closer. So my question is: can this be done algebraically or does it have to be done with calculus, and if it can be done algebraically how do I calculate the sphere's velocity when the force acting upon it, and thus it's acceleration, is constantly increasing?
Work so far:
F= Fg + Fe
F= (k q1 * q2)/r + (G * m1 * m2)/r2
and using F=ma, a1 = F / m1 = (k q1 * q2)/r + (G * m1 * m2)/r2 / m1
and using Vf2=V02+ 2a * X
Vf for m1=sqrt(V02+ 2a * X)=
sqrt(2 ( k * q1 * q2)/r + (G * m1 * m2)/r2 / m1)* X))
where X = the initial distance between the two spheres
 
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i will give you two concepts using which you can solve this ...
you can assume that net external force is 0
so "Total Internal Energy of the System" is conserved and also "Angular Momentum of the System" is constant
 
I don't see how that helps me account for the fact that the acceleration isn't constant due to the forces increasing as the distance between them decreases.
 
The total energy is conserved, so PE is trading off with KE. The "experiment" begins with PE and no KE...
 
and feel free to ignore gravity. it will have no effect.
 
Thanks for all your help, I figured it out: 16.0m/s
 
eczeno said:
and feel free to ignore gravity. it will have no effect.

you mean gravity due to earth?
coz i guess gravity b/w 2 spheres will have effect
 
well, you have that backward. the gravity between the two spheres will be insignificant compared to the electric force between them (like a factor of 10^10 less). they will both be affected by Earth's gravity, but this problem does not ask you to address that.
 

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