Finally, all the Moon Hoaxers can move on, right?

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Pfft. That's so obviously faked. Besides, that smudge can be anything!

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:rofl: An obvious fake. So is this:

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Unfortunately, all the Moon hoaxers will not move on. Their responses will undoubtedly be that these images are faked -- and just in time for the 40th anniversary. CNN did an article on this here. They chased down Phil Plait (bad astronomy forum, Discovery.com) who said
"Will the LRO's incredibly high-resolution images of the lunar surface, including, eventually, the Apollo landing sites, finally quell the lunacy of the Moon Hoax believers? Obviously it won't," writes astronomer Phil Plait in his blog on Discover magazine's Web site. "These true believers don't live in an evidence-based world."​
 
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Phil is BAD!
 
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The local news team did a piece on the NASA enhancement, and when it got to the part about what the conspiracy theorists were saying, they both busted out laughing.
 
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Well I guess just for sake of argument. What is the one most important "fact" that the hoax people have? What is keeping them attached to the belief that we didn't land on the moon?
 
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Well I guess just for sake of argument. What is the one most important "fact" that the hoax people have? What is keeping them attached to the belief that we didn't land on the moon?
Uh, the amount of effort NASA and the government put into hiding it? That's proof they're hiding something. :biggrin:
 
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Who knows? They have absolutely nothing to stand on. What makes the truthers, the Westboro Baptist Church, flat earthers, or any other bunch of loose screws carry on the way they do? What drives vandals to throw a rock through a window?

My guess is a big part of it is a sick need for attention.
 
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Pointing to a fuzzy dot! This picture serves nothing, I want high resolution images of the vessel from space.
 
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Isn't there a reflective array left behind? Can't you just use a laser pointer or something to prove it to yourself...?
 
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They don't deny that rocket ships went to the moon, just that astronauts did. In my opinion, they don't even really believe their own nonsense. They just carry an anti-establishment message. Science is the voice of authority, and they can show their defiance by pretending not to believe in the moon landings or in gravity or whatever else.
 
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They just carry an anti-establishment message. Science is the voice of authority, and they can show their defiance by pretending not to believe in the moon landings or in gravity or whatever else.
Well said. I think this is the answer to bucher's question in post 6.
 
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Yeah. I was thinking that the hoax people had some hard evidence to prove their point. All that I really found out there (on the internet) were misconceptions on camera angles and the astronauts' voices played backwards. Apparently if you play a recording backwards you'll hear messages and there's supposed to be one of Armstrong saying he lied that he went to the moon.

That's really all that I could find so I was just curious if there was anything else that could be debunked or waived off as insane.
 
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Yeah. I was thinking that the hoax people had some hard evidence to prove their point. All that I really found out there (on the internet) were misconceptions on camera angles and the astronauts' voices played backwards. Apparently if you play a recording backwards you'll hear messages and there's supposed to be one of Armstrong saying he lied that he went to the moon.

That's really all that I could find so I was just curious if there was anything else that could be debunked or waived off as insane.
Ahaha, I think that's pretty insane, I hadn't heard that one.
 
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This is not really appropriate for S&D as it does not address potentially unexplained phenomena. Moved to GD.
 
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Well I guess just for sake of argument. What is the one most important "fact" that the hoax people have? What is keeping them attached to the belief that we didn't land on the moon?
These folks don't care much for facts, just like all the people who believe in these whacked out things. Like alchemy and homeopathy.
 
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They showed the debunking of the hoax theory on NatGeo earlier today... tore it apart pretty handily.
 
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There will always be moon hoaxers/flat earthers etc. around.

Many people like to think the government is going through so much trouble to hide things from them. It makes them feel important.
 
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The moon landing was a hoax. If our government can't get a letter to san diego within a couple days, there's no way they could have landed on the moon!

I believe FedEx was actually the first ones to the moon.
 
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It's obviously a hoax. Every reasonable person knows that the lunar landing was filmed in a studio on Mars.
 
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NASA recently found some lost footage from the mission which they are supposed to be releasing soon. Richard C Hoagland has already come out saying that they actually intentionally hid the footage until they had adequate technology to undetectably edit out the parts they don't want us to see. So obviously the picture is fake.
 
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They showed the debunking of the hoax theory on NatGeo earlier today... tore it apart pretty handily.
My favorite part was the idiot with a rubber glove in a vacuum chamber and how hard it is to move his hand. Obviously the suits worn by the astronauts used rubber gloves bought at ACO.
 
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The fireworks in the opening ceremonies of the Beijing Olympics were cg'ed (the footprints), and the music played by Itzhak Perlman, Yo-Yo Ma, & co at Obama's inauguration was off someone's iPod or a cd or something. & those things happend on planet Earth recently. I'd say it possible, even likely, that that Moon-landing footage was done in a studio 40 years ago, for the same reasons that the other things were staged, that is to make sure what got broadcast all over the world was good quality, or for safety, etc. Bush's "mission accomplished" landing & speech was on that aircraft carrier but it wasn't anywhere near Iraq; it was off the coast of New York or something. & that Thanksgiving turkey he served to the soldiers in Iraq wasn't actually served, it was only there for decoration. But it's far-fetched, that 40 years ago, the moon-landing video was done in a studio?
 
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I'd say it possible, even likely, that that Moon-landing footage was done in a studio 40 years ago, for the same reasons that the other things were staged, that is to make sure what got broadcast all over the world was good quality, or for safety, etc.
Waitaminnit. Your not a Moon hoaxer, you're hypothesizing that, not only did we go to the Moon, but in addition we also shot the whole thing here in a studio.

That's precious.
 
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Waitaminnit. Your not a Moon hoaxer, you're hypothesizing that, not only did we go to the Moon, but in addition we also shot the whole thing here in a studio.

That's precious.
I've actually considered that possibility myself. That yes they landed on the moon but they may have staged some footage to be sure that they had something of a good enough quality to capture the attention of the public or perhaps something to show if the video feed was not working.
 

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