Find average velocity of a sphere which expands and moves

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The discussion revolves around finding the average velocity of a sphere that is both expanding and moving. The original poster presents a scenario involving a shell with a radius R, an expansion velocity v, and a movement velocity v'. Participants explore the implications of these velocities on the average velocity of the shell.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the concept of average velocity in the context of a moving and expanding shell, with some suggesting that expansion velocities cancel out while others question this assumption. There are attempts to clarify the distinction between speed and velocity, particularly regarding the vector nature of these quantities.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants raising questions about the relationship between the shell's expansion and movement velocities. Some guidance has been offered regarding the conceptual understanding of kinetic energy and the need for careful consideration of integrals in the context of the problem.

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There is a noted complexity in the problem, particularly regarding the integration of velocities and the distinction between kinetic energy of the shell and the sphere. Participants express uncertainty about the correct equations and methods to apply, indicating a need for further exploration of the topic.

  • #91
Quarlep said:
Can dtheta and dphi change sides
Do you mean, can they be in either order? Yes. It's the order of the integral signs that defines the order of integration (inside first).
 
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  • #92
I am in holiday I am not working in computer so I can't write all steps to you right now.We will do first integral (the one which is inside) that's phi but there wrote dtheta so I asked you this
 
  • #93
Can you tell me what was that please the only thing I ll do is put it on program
 
  • #94
Quarlep said:
Can you tell me what was that please the only thing I ll do is put it on program
Sorry, I don't understand what you are asking.
 
  • #95
The answer :):)
 
  • #96
Quarlep said:
The answer :):)
Do you simply want the answer to the original question, by whatever means, or do you specifically want to see how to do it through an elaborate double integral?
 
  • #97
I want to see answer to the original question
 
  • #98
I am working on symbolab but I found nothing
 
  • #99
Quarlep said:
I want to see answer to the original question
Then use my symmetry method. It gets rid of the trig terms and makes the integral trivial.
 
  • #100
I was banned so I couldn't answer over a 10 days I found 4p(pi)r^2((v'^2)+v^2)
 
  • #101
Quarlep said:
I was banned so I couldn't answer over a 10 days I found 4p(pi)r^2((v'^2)+v^2)
I think it should be exactly half that.
Note that the factor outside the parentheses is just the mass.
 
  • #102
Thank you so much. Problem is solved now.
 

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