Find eccentricity of orbit after star has lost mass

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The problem involves a planet in a circular orbit around a star that experiences a sudden decrease in the star's mass. Participants are tasked with finding the eccentricity of the new elliptical orbit that the planet will follow after the mass loss.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of the mass loss on the effective potential and the conservation of angular momentum. There are attempts to relate angular momentum and eccentricity, with some questioning how to calculate the angular momentum of the elliptical orbit and the role of total energy in this context.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on using known relations between energy, eccentricity, and angular momentum. However, there appears to be confusion regarding the conservation of energy and how it affects the calculations, with multiple interpretations being explored without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the total energy is not conserved due to the mass loss, which complicates the calculations. There is also a discussion about the assumptions regarding the star's fixed position during the transition from circular to elliptical orbit.

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Homework Statement



Initially, a planet with mass m moves on a circular orbit (r = R) around a star with mass M. Now M is instantaneously decreased to M'. Find the eccentricity e of the elliptical orbit the planet now follows.

Homework Equations



specific angular momentum l = L/m

\frac{\mbox{total energy}~ E}{m} = \frac{1}{2}v_r^2 + \frac{1}{2}\frac{l^2}{r^2} - \frac{γM}{r}

The effective potential is:

V_{eff}=\frac{1}{2}\frac{l^2}{r^2} - \frac{γM}{r}

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The Attempt at a Solution



The mimimum of the effective potential is at R. But then as M->M' the minimum is shifted upwards and to the right. Energy is not conserved: the potential becomes less negative and kinetic energy also increases

The radius of the circular orbit R provides us with the semi-axis b of the ellipse, because at the moment of mass loss M -> M' the planet will leave it's circular orbit and enter the elliptical orbit at perihelion. The circle lies exactly inside the ellipse.

The mass loss does not effect angular momentum because the gradient of the potential is parallel to r, so the force responsible for the change of orbit is also only acting parallel to r.

l_{circle} = R^2 \omega

Now I have to find a relation between l and e, but I'm stuck on how to calculate the angular momentum of the elliptical orbit. I don't even know it's period. Thanks for reading!
Michael
 
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Check "Kepler problem" on wikipedia.

See here the relation between the energy, eccentricity and angular momentum of the motion.
 
sorry, this relation is known but it doesn't solve the problem. Could anybody help?
 
That is precisely the relation you need... just look at the derivation a little longer.

For the angular momentum is conserved, so you just need to calculate the angular momentum in the first case with the circular orbit. (suppose the star is fixed ...)

This is simply:

L=mR^2\omega

Where the angular velocity can simply be calculated (circular motion provided by gravity):

\omega = \sqrt{\frac{\gamma M}{R^2}}

Use this to find the angular momentum ... and then use the relation...
 
I think I still haven't understood. I'd say it's

\omega = \sqrt{\frac{\gamma M}{R^3}}


and thus


L = m\sqrt{\gamma M R}

In my first post I wrote angular momentum is conserved, but why does it depend on M?
And provided we are talking about this formula:

e = \sqrt{1 + \frac{2EL^{2}}{k^{2}m}}


...how would it help me to calculate the eccentricity? Total energy E is not conserved and is thus not a constant in this equation.
 

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