Find Limit of n*(x^(1/n)-1)-ln(x) for Any n

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Homework Statement


Find the limit:

lim_{x -> \infty}[n*(x^{\frac{1}{n}}-1)-ln(x)], for any n.

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L'Hopitals rule.

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I know that the ratio of the first expression over the last goes to zero, by L'Hopital, but unfortunately I now have a difference and not a quotient. Is it possible to transform it in some way to use L'Hopital?
 
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a-b = (ab-b^2)/b = (a/b - 1)/(1/b)
Not sure if one of those helps.
 
lim_{x -> \infty}[n*(x^{\frac{1}{n}}-1)-ln(x)], for any n.

##y = \displaystyle \lim_{x \to \infty}(ln[e^{n*(x^{\frac{1}{n}}-1)}]-ln(x))##
##y = \displaystyle \lim_{x \to \infty}\displaystyle ln\left[\frac{e^{n*(x^{\frac{1}{n}}-1)}}{x}\right]##
##e^y = \displaystyle \lim_{x \to \infty}\displaystyle \left[\frac{e^{n*(x^{\frac{1}{n}}-1)}}{x}\right]##

That gives it in fraction form. I'm not sure if it makes it easier to evaluate or not, I haven't tried the problem myself.
 
scurty said:
That gives it in fraction form. I'm not sure if it makes it easier to evaluate or not, I haven't tried the problem myself.
If you apply l'Hopital's rule on that fraction, you end up with the same fraction again (plus some irrelevant part you can ignore).
 
mfb said:
If you apply l'Hopital's rule on that fraction, you end up with the same fraction again (plus some irrelevant part you can ignore).

You're right.

I believe factoring out ln(x) so you have ##\displaystyle\lim_{x\to\infty}\ln{(x)} \cdot \left(\frac{n(x^{1/n}-1)}{\ln{(x)}} - 1\right)## might work. You can use l'Hospital's on the inside fraction which works better than what I suggested above.
 
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